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I heard he was picked but gave up his shirt to Clarkson. But he still should've been in the side before Kirke or Ablett. A bizarre decsion from McClennan.
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| Quote: Money Mayweather "I heard he was picked but gave up his shirt to Clarkson. But he still should've been in the side before Kirke or Ablett. A bizarre decsion from McClennan.'"
An act of nobility from Ali that does not sound implausible.....but as you say McClennan should have over ruled him. Clarkson should have been consoled by the head coach that his time will come (personally I believe Diskin should have missed out from the 17......but obviously Kirke, Ablett, Bailey and indeed Buderus hardly covered themselves in glory to justify [itheir[/i selection). |
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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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If the coach selected Kirke ahead of Ali or allowed the players to pick his team for him then, frankly, it confirms some of teh rumours I've heard about him.
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I've seen them bomb a quarter final, bottle a semi final, finish as league leaders, but I've still, never, seen the Wire win the league
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not his greatest game yesterday but leeds look infintely more dangerous with buderus on the field - can he not do 80 mins?
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| Quote: G1 "If the coach selected Kirke ahead of Ali or allowed the players to pick his team for him then, frankly, it confirms some of teh rumours I've heard about him.'"
What rumours pm me. |
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| Quote: G1 "If the coach selected Kirke ahead of Ali or allowed the players to pick his team for him then, frankly, it confirms some of teh rumours I've heard about him.'"
PM me with these rumours plaese |
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Speaking to Ali after the game, he said that he was selected, but he did not feel he was fit to play, and didn't want to break down in the middle of the game and leave us a sub down like 2005, that is why he "offered his shirt to Clarkson"
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| Quote: cheekydiddles "i'm sure we were all stunned at the news leaking out Friday that Ali was not going to be playing.
I had assumed it was because of yet another set back with his leg/knee injury but then was stunned again to see him runnning around with the lads in the warm up having had it confirmed by the press that he was not playing.
I'm not sure we will ever know what Bluey's reasoning behind this was but seemed very baffling to me and i'm sure several others.
Leaving a massive attacking threat like Ali out who seemed to have proved his fitness (at last) over the last 2/3 games. Surely a game like that and the open spaces of Wembley were a marriage made in heaven for him?
As things turned out it was probably a bridge too far anyway but at 14-0 down the game was set up and crying out for some Ali magic.
Ali COULD have added the spark we needed and IMO was a much better option on the bench than Ablett. Ablett is a workaholic starter (who often doesn't know when to pass by the way......another certain try bombed yesterday in the second half when he cut back inside in their 20) not someone who is going to make an impact off the bench.'"
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| Quote: Cala Millor Rhino "Speaking to Ali after the game, he said that he was selected'"
Not what he told me, he said he was fit but dropped! Blueys logic was supposedly saving him for play offs. One really has to question his tactics! It was so obvious where Wire's strength was and it appears he just ignored it. |
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[quote="G1":1x8x7ghm]Nice one Andy. You articulated a differing opinion given reasons and substance.
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| Quote: G1 "If the coach selected Kirke ahead of Ali or allowed the players to pick his team for him then, frankly, it confirms some of teh rumours I've heard about him.'"
Agreed.
Half an hour of Ali yesterday and more minutes for Bailey, Ablett (who I know had a poor game in the end)would have been a much better option. We were crying out for a game breaker to make something happen at 14-0 for at least 20 minutes |
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| Quote: Money Mayweather "I heard he was picked but gave up his shirt to Clarkson. But he still should've been in the side before Kirke or Ablett. A bizarre decsion from McClennan.'"
Must agree if Ali was fit then it was a shocking decision to leave him out of the 17 
Having just sat through the sky+ to see if we were that bad I noted Davies comment about Kirke missing Atkins due to being tired...............tired!!!! He'd only been on the park 10 minutes!
As much as I felt before Kirke was worth a shirt.............it certainly wasnt at the expense of Ali!
Outcoached on the pitch and out thought selection wise........questions to be asked??  |
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| Quote: darwoo11 "Must agree if Ali was fit then it was a shocking decision to leave him out of the 17 ![]()
I see all of your points about getting "out-coached" but do you honestly believe that they were coached to miss tackles,have a sh#* kicking game,lack go forward and perform like a pub team???
Now don't get me wrong Bluey has to take his portion of blame but every player i've seen interviewed said clearly "we went away from the game plan" or words to that effect.
Warrington were very good dug in i the 1st 15 minutes and the were clinical in taking their chances now all that isn't just down to TS they had the hunger,belief and enthusiasm to carry that out whereas our lot......
Well we know what happened and i agree changes are needed to the squad both in selection and recruitment and also the coaching staff we already have Brian Mcdermott joining and a new u20's coach tba so maybe that will freshen things up and we can move on.
FWIW i think it was a mistake signing all the players that were OOC but it's what we are stuck with and hopefuly we'll suffer less from injuries and get more consistent with and without the ball next year.
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| Quote: rhinoms "I see all of your points about getting "out-coached" but do you honestly believe that they were coached to miss tackles,have a sh#* kicking game,lack go forward and perform like a pub team???
Now don't get me wrong Bluey has to take his portion of blame but every player i've seen interviewed said clearly "we went away from the game plan" or words to that effect.
Warrington were very good dug in i the 1st 15 minutes and the were clinical in taking their chances now all that isn't just down to TS they had the hunger,belief and enthusiasm to carry that out whereas our lot......
Well we know what happened and i agree changes are needed to the squad both in selection and recruitment and also the coaching staff we already have Brian Mcdermott joining and a new u20's coach tba so maybe that will freshen things up and we can move on.
FWIW i think it was a mistake signing all the players that were OOC but it's what we are stuck with and hopefuly we'll suffer less from injuries and get more consistent with and without the ball next year.'"
And yes Bluey couldnt have forseen such a poor performance all round from the majority of the 17 selected I do agree. Rarely however do we see the players taking the blame for this which once again is probably wrong but seems it is they way it is.
I cant disagree with a lot of what you say but I do believe Bluey has often winged it with the "squad togetherness" line seemingly not having a plan B if it goes tits up....... sooner or later it was going to catch up with us..........it did yesterday! |
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| Quote: Cala Millor Rhino "Speaking to Ali after the game, he said that he was selected, but he did not feel he was fit to play, and didn't want to break down in the middle of the game and leave us a sub down like 2005, that is why he "offered his shirt to Clarkson"'"
Absolutle shambles on all accounts.
Firstly that a player is getting selected who doesn't even feel fit enough himself.
and then allowing the players to select the team.
If ali wasn't fully fit he shouldnt have been selected in the first place.
But he was so McClennan should have overuled. |
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| Quote: darwoo11 "And yes Bluey couldnt have forseen such a poor performance all round from the majority of the 17 selected I do agree. Rarely however do we see the players taking the blame for this which once again is probably wrong but seems it is they way it is.
I cant disagree with a lot of what you say but I do believe Bluey has often winged it with the "squad togetherness" line seemingly not having a plan B if it goes tits up....... sooner or later it was going to catch up with us..........it did yesterday! ![]()
No doubts about it it kicked us right up the jacksy mate but i don't believe you can "wing it" to 2 GF wins and many on here could'nt wait to be rid of TS now he's some sort of "RL Jedi master" yet it took him 2yrs and plenty of ££££ to beat us.
I think both are good coaches and have done great jobs for Leeds but the squad is that bit older and the injuries run deeper and we caught a team who were red hot yesterday and maybe we are done for this year although i'll never write us completely but there's more to come from the Rhinos imo and we are not done yet.
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