My tickets were free but even I felt cheated other than the last 2 mins!!

You see here is the thing, if people keep turning up in their thousands then that compounds the problem as the money keeps rolling in and mediocrity of performance is "accepted". So should we "accept" this level of performance, or show our displeasure in the only way we can, by not going in such numbers?

We've won the championship a few times now so for me (at least) it's not really about that any more, it's about being entertained by a high quality performance, which in turn will lead to a more competitive International game.

I would rather see us put in a top notch performance and lose a tigh game of very high quality, than be average for 80 mins and win by 20+ points.

This current squad IMO, whilst light on numbers, is certainly good enough to put in much better performances than it has done so far this year.

How about loads of people are on holiday!

There is probably a combination of factors.

I was suprised at the number of Warrington fans, they usually bring much more. So I dont think you can entirely say its because of fickle Leeds fans not showing up.

A £64 matchday ticket price for a family of four is not that attractive a proposition either, add drinks, sweets, hot dogs etc and you're close to £100 before you've had a chance to even think about it - all for two hours entertainment at an outdoors venue on a day when its been lashing it down all day.

You can disregard the argument about season family tickets, I'm speaking of the family groups who are looking for an attraction to attend but who don't want to commit themselves to several hundred pounds in the run-up to christmas but who wouldn't mind attending several hand-picked games throughout the season.

To the best of my knowledge and despite suggesting the same to the club for chirst knows how many years now, these "floating voter family groups" have never been targeted as a market by the people who apparently market the club.

Its strange because I know from experience that a family group with two young children will spend a huge amount of money at a game, anyone with children will know that it is impossible to visit any venue without spending money in the food and drink outlets and the venue souvineer shop - hook the kids (they will already be hooked by peer presure at school) and you're guaranteed a hefty spend on replica kits and other such high-priced tat - just try and get into the club shop an hour before kickoff and see how many parents and kids are in there.

A family ticket, dedicated family turnstiles (absolutely necessary but completely baffling to the staff at the last "supporters forum" that I went to several years ago) and a gentle nod towards the North Stand Paddock with a vague promise that you "may" be under cover (s) is what is needed, and on the front page of the web site - check the web site and see if you can see any family concessions like most visitor attractions hold - there are none.

Until there are we will simply lose a whole tranche of valuable customers, customers who will spend more per head than any 18-25 year old but a tranche who are completely ignored, if not discouraged.

Only one match this season has seen a greater attendance than the corresponding fixture last season and thats Huddersfield (+195) maybe because of their form? (Castleford not included)

Hull KR gate........ down 2,275
Catalans .............down 658
Quins .................down 645
Bradford .............down 1,472
Wigan .................down 1,092
Wakefield ............down 2,004
Hull .....................down 957
Saints .................down 674 (used cup game - on season ticket)
Warrington ..........down 2,941
Huddersfield ........up 195

Holidays, and it being a Saturday night game (along with the weather for most of the day) were probably the biggest factors.

The southstand reduced capacity would be a large % of that though.

Still plenty of space elsewhere

I agree that's why i put "large" and not all.

Pricing has become a bit too high lately too. RL is supposedto be the cheap option, most value for money and all that. £20+ to get s wet through on an open end is not very appealing

The date of the game being changed, people make plan etc and because of Sky dates get altered. Poor weather, poor turnout of wire supporters, the credit crunch, high cost of tickets and also Leeds are playing poor. Just look what can happen Wigan cut the price to £10, gate up by six thousand

Before last Friday we'd won 6 on the bounce and you barely posted.

We lost one, wone one and we're playing so poorly.

Attendances are down, possibly throughout the league. There's a recession on.

Personally, last night was pretty fine value for money in terms of entertainment.

You are right, I did barely post, but not because I wasn't interested. I rarely get time to post through the week these days, and frankly most of the time I have better things to do with my family on a weekend.

The reason I have posted after last night is more down to frustration at the lack of quality of performance on display these days given the quality in the squad. I feel we are nowhere near fulfilling our potential, and that disappoints me as I'm sure it does you too.

We are both long enough in the tooth to appreciate what has happened over the last few years, and hopefully will continue to do so, but I'm getting a bit hacked off with the "league games don't matter, we'll turn it on for the playoffs attitude". Do people pay any less of their hard earned cash to watch league games? I don't think so, but I do think they are being short changed by the attitude being shown by the club.