Apparently it is because we're 20 odd pages in and there still hasn't been any proof provided whatsoever other than Printer & Gotcha reckon Child isn't a good ref and is only where he is because he's gay.

Nothing else whatsoever has been provided in support of the allegation. Just 20 odd pages of twisting and attempted dodges and misdirection by the people making the allegations.

Did I ever claim to have proof? I have what I've always claimed to have, a point of view and I've provided information as to why I've come to that.

Only you and others have used the word proof.



Neither is my question of why did he get those key games in 2012 that were way above his level at the time and other refs like Hicks and Roby never given similar gigs in the same timeframe?

Yet you, Smokey and others have dodged that for several pages.

ANSWER THAT ONE SOMEBODY.

It's not because he's French. It's because he would be a neutral referee. Are you honestly unaware of the concept of nationality in sport? Ever watched the ENGLAND Rugby League team?


So it's a series of sub-conscious decisions now is it? How does that work considering the head of referees has changed a few times over the course of James Child refereeing career. As has the executive and management of the RFL.
So which is it? Company policy at the RFL or Refs department, or the sub-conscious decisions of 1 person?

Do you mean positive action?

Positive discrimination is not legal in UK or EU.

It was alleged on here that Child gets big games purely because he is gay even though he isn't as good (not that he is equal standard).

The other confession was to offer a job to a second best candidate purely due to race.

I do feel these comments about a person based on their sexuality with no evidence whatsoever are offensive and do not belong on a public message board. Is it not time to end this thread before someone brings the whole board into trouble?

From the Oxford English Dictionary

Definition of prejudice in English
1Preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience

We don't know!!

Maybe someone thought he was up to it?

Maybe he is half French?

Maybe he is just a nice lad?

Maybe he was / is seen as a prospect for the future? Just like Golding? I guess Golding must be gay too then?

You also claim he didn't "come out" until the Hardaker incident so what does 2012 have to do with it?

Yes I am aware. I'm also aware he officiated England 4 times before he became a SL referee and only twice after. I'm also aware that when England played New Zealand in the 2009 Four Nations, that Australia do have referees.

Unless he was hired solely because they'd be mid season internationals between England and Wales and the Southern Hemisphere couldn't be bothered to send a ref over then your theory is poor.

Alibert first three matches at International level were games involving France including one vs England.

You might want to cast your mind back to last year and the Ryan Hall pinky finger no try vs Australia as well before harping on about referees nationalities in International fixtures.

People had no problem claiming they only picked Sutton because he was an Aussie and not because they thought he was best man for the job.

But it's ok to accuse the Aussies without no proof.

No I didn't, that was another poster.

But you don't think his work colleagues didn't know before then?

But it wasn't preconceived, you lot just want it to be and you want the reason to be that I'm prejudice or homophobic instead of even remotely thinking that's their's even a 1% chance that's it's possible.

Like I said before, If people don't think it's to do with his sexuality then fine. To say it's 100% NOT possible is just sticking your head in the sand.

Has anyone accused Thierry Alibert of being anything other than being the best french referee promoted to a competition that is part french?

You do realise it being fair on Les Catalans and France to allow their officials to officiate in competitions they participate is the same thing right?

For the same reason Ian Smith was given a Leeds/Wigan game in 2009. There you go. It has been answered (one of numerous answers given to you)

FFS. It's also 1% possible that Steve Ganson shoves hamsters up his backside whilst pleasuring himself to the soundtrack of Frozen and that James Child walked in on him doing it. It doesn't mean you come to that conclusion WHEN THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IT.

There are a plethora of other much more plausible reasons for why James Child is considered one of the top 4 refs by the RFL. His attitude, his professionalism, his work ethic, how he conducts himself, how he prepares, how he reviews, how he interacts with others are all reasons why the RFL might favour him over others. Or that the RFL are relatively happy with his performances.

To suggest he only gets what he does because of his sexuality, with no evidence for it, is a prejudiced view. Because you aren't saying the same about any other ref, some of whom have performed just as poorly as Child. And the fact is, if Child wasn't gay, you wouldn't be suggesting he's where he is because of is sexuality.

It is exactly the same as saying Ryan Bailey kept getting a game at Leeds because he was black.

So now you want to confuse refereeing neutrality with your absurd homophobic allegations.

Did you honestly think that was a good argument?

The gay referee gets games because he is gay
The french referee gets games because he is french
The straight white english referees get judged solely on their performance in a fair and even manner.

With no further evidence this is what a rational, none bigoted person should apparently conclude.

No he didn't. He's reffed England more than that. And would have done many had the Aussies not vetoed his appointment in the 4 Nations.


Except there is plenty of proof. Because the Aussies regularly vote for Aussie refs in RLIF votes. Plus with international refereeing there is a conflict of interest because Sutton is employed by one side in the match. A side that isn't used to losing and doesn't take losing well.

Bit of a sh|t attempt at a diversion there though. Another nice try though.