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| Quote ArthurClues="ArthurClues"If we are bagging Zane and Prior we should throw in Mik too. Missed plenty and Saints front row crunched him. Could also point out that young Newman had a shocker with silly kicks and poor discipline costing us. These are two players we are talking about as potential marquee, but they didn't look like it last night. I still think they are both great talents but as fans we do seem to have a blind spot when it comes to our own. The overseas lads always get it in the neck when we don't perform, but it's a team game and collectively we were not good enough. Good news is that we have plenty of room for improvement and a whole off season to progress, and I'm sure we will.'"
Think Prior is just burnt out, Oledski just not fit and we new that was a risk, Tet is just poor and a massive disappointment, Bodene Thompson out played him last night. He turns his back into nearly every tackle then ends up on his back for a slow play the ball, he rushes up to make the big hit and mainly just bounces of, goes low drops of the tackle. Can we have Ben cross, Mark ONeil or David Barhill Back.
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| Quote ArthurClues="ArthurClues"If we are bagging Zane and Prior we should throw in Mik too. Missed plenty and Saints front row crunched him. Could also point out that young Newman had a shocker with silly kicks and poor discipline costing us. These are two players we are talking about as potential marquee, but they didn't look like it last night. I still think they are both great talents but as fans we do seem to have a blind spot when it comes to our own. The overseas lads always get it in the neck when we don't perform, but it's a team game and collectively we were not good enough. Good news is that we have plenty of room for improvement and a whole off season to progress, and I'm sure we will.'"
Newman should never have been in a position where he had to kick, that’s down to saints being dominant and our options at hooker and half back
Mik was clearly not fit I think your being a bit harsh on them
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| Quote ArthurClues="ArthurClues"Went last night. Dissapointing result, dissapointing performance, but you have to acknowledge a brilliant and ruthless performance from a Saints team who are right up with great English sides I've watched since I've been following the game. We will be stronger next year and the strength in depth at half will make a huge difference. I expect to see the journeyman who still make our seventeen out competed by new or younger players in 2022. Watching Roby last night painfully reinforced just why we need Corey Johnson to be a success. Fingers crossed that will happen. All things considered it's been a good year and just getting into grounds for games like last nights has been the highlight for me.'"
People putting a loot of faith into a player who as played hardly any Super League ir open age rugby and has a commitment/attitude problem, people making out he’s Danny Buderous. We have a really good hooker who is arguably our player of the year, made the dream team and had to play out of position. What more fo people want. If Leeming hets a full year at hooker he is likely to be in the world cup squad.
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| Quote rollin thunder="rollin thunder"People putting a loot of faith into a player who as played hardly any Super League ir open age rugby and has a commitment/attitude problem, people making out he’s Danny Buderous. We have a really good hooker who is arguably our player of the year, made the dream team and had to play out of position. What more fo people want. If Leeming hets a full year at hooker he is likely to be in the world cup squad.'"
Agree with that. I’d written us off last night as soon as I saw Dwyer was starting at 9. When you’re attacking everything starts with the pass / scoot / jump from the dummy half. Dwyer’s distribution is simply not good enough.
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| Quote christopher="christopher"Ive never said he was blameles in this game just that he’s not to blame for the club’s recent poor seasons flirting with relegation.
He’s done/doing a good job weve just come up short this year.'"
Fair comment. He's overseen a much needed overhaul I'd agree
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| INOUT Quote christopher="christopher"Newman should never have been in a position where he had to kick, that’s down to saints being dominant and our options at hooker and half back
Mik was clearly not fit I think your being a bit harsh on them'"
No I'm not. I really like both. I'm just pointing that as fans we often seem blind to the failings of our home grown players, whilst being really keen to give the overseas lads a bashing.
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| Quote Les Norton="Les Norton"Agree with that. I’d written us off last night as soon as I saw Dwyer was starting at 9. When you’re attacking everything starts with the pass / scoot / jump from the dummy half. Dwyer’s distribution is simply not good enough.'"
Yep and leeming's limitations in the halves just compound it. He can throw a half decent pass from dummy but falls far short when picking a runner while on the move, especially when moving it on any distance.
That said, a fit gale and new signings mean leeming reverts to starting hooker and Dwyer impact sub which obviously corrects a lot of problems
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| Quote ArthurClues="ArthurClues"INOUTNo I'm not. I really like both. I'm just pointing that as fans we often seem blind to the failings of our home grown players, whilst being really keen to give the overseas lads a bashing.'"
Correct though hopefully the coaches provide more objectivity. Enthusiasm is great but I'd hope there's more said behind closed doors.
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| I don’t think anyone is bashing any player. Prior has been immense at times for us. In fact he has had games where he’s raised it to a level other players can’t match.
It’s fair to say we haven’t seen that player in the last quarter of the season unfortunately. He is a quality player - hopefully age isn’t going to catch up with him too much over the next 2 years.
Zane I’ve been very disappointed with. Mitigating circumstances this year, as I’ve said benefit of the doubt and see how he goes next year. It’s a play-off game last night and a marquee should be among the best on the pitch. What was it, 11 tackle misses? Something isn’t right there, let’s hope it is recoverable COVID symptoms / legacy from his Achilles or something.
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| What does Agar mean in his presser by 'digging into the line too soon'?
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| Newman is a good player, also has the potential to be a great player. Probably had a rude awakening last night due to the intensity of the saints aggressive defence. Different scenario from most teams he has faced this year, I do have some sympathy with him as the service he is receiving is woeful. The imbalance across the three quarters is shocking. Not much ability on view to pass and put him through a gap. I am not sorry to see hurell leave , initially pretty good then developed into a bit of showman.
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| Quote paddock="paddock"What does Agar mean in his presser by 'digging into the line too soon'?'"
Hitting up from first receiver too often I imagine. Predictable and it allowed saints to hit our carrier with 3 tacklers simultaneously. Their use of runners was far better
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