Newman should never have been in a position where he had to kick, that’s down to saints being dominant and our options at hooker and half back

Mik was clearly not fit I think your being a bit harsh on them

People putting a loot of faith into a player who as played hardly any Super League ir open age rugby and has a commitment/attitude problem, people making out he’s Danny Buderous. We have a really good hooker who is arguably our player of the year, made the dream team and had to play out of position. What more fo people want. If Leeming hets a full year at hooker he is likely to be in the world cup squad.

Agree with that. I’d written us off last night as soon as I saw Dwyer was starting at 9. When you’re attacking everything starts with the pass / scoot / jump from the dummy half. Dwyer’s distribution is simply not good enough.

Fair comment. He's overseen a much needed overhaul I'd agree

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No I'm not. I really like both. I'm just pointing that as fans we often seem blind to the failings of our home grown players, whilst being really keen to give the overseas lads a bashing.

Yep and leeming's limitations in the halves just compound it. He can throw a half decent pass from dummy but falls far short when picking a runner while on the move, especially when moving it on any distance.
That said, a fit gale and new signings mean leeming reverts to starting hooker and Dwyer impact sub which obviously corrects a lot of problems

Correct though hopefully the coaches provide more objectivity. Enthusiasm is great but I'd hope there's more said behind closed doors.

I don’t think anyone is bashing any player. Prior has been immense at times for us. In fact he has had games where he’s raised it to a level other players can’t match.

It’s fair to say we haven’t seen that player in the last quarter of the season unfortunately. He is a quality player - hopefully age isn’t going to catch up with him too much over the next 2 years.

Zane I’ve been very disappointed with. Mitigating circumstances this year, as I’ve said benefit of the doubt and see how he goes next year. It’s a play-off game last night and a marquee should be among the best on the pitch. What was it, 11 tackle misses? Something isn’t right there, let’s hope it is recoverable COVID symptoms / legacy from his Achilles or something.

What does Agar mean in his presser by 'digging into the line too soon'?

Newman is a good player, also has the potential to be a great player. Probably had a rude awakening last night due to the intensity of the saints aggressive defence. Different scenario from most teams he has faced this year, I do have some sympathy with him as the service he is receiving is woeful. The imbalance across the three quarters is shocking. Not much ability on view to pass and put him through a gap. I am not sorry to see hurell leave , initially pretty good then developed into a bit of showman.

Hitting up from first receiver too often I imagine. Predictable and it allowed saints to hit our carrier with 3 tacklers simultaneously. Their use of runners was far better

Again I think Hurrell has hardly been fit for a year now.

It's a disgrace this saints team is going to win 3 on the trot. Everyone is so crap, they don't even have to work for it.

Anyone think Cats will beat them?

Saints will probably win three on the trot because they are significantly better than the rest. But anything can happen in a one-off game. Last night the Rhinos were blown away by amazing line speed and group defence right across the park, not just the forwards. Regardless of any creativity in the half’s, if your pack is retreating the game is lost. However, we have much to learn from this season and should look forward to 2022 and beyond with optimism. The additions to the squad will bring more balance and with a bit of luck with injuries we should make a stepped improvement. We have weaknesses in the team and lack of pace in wide areas but we should remain positive moving forward. I feel the future will be good for the Rhinos and I do sense for the competition as whole. We will not be the only team making a major improvement in 2022.