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Quote: Seth "Completely agree, there’s an opportunity there to reward Tindall and challenge Briscoe getting the best out of both of them. As you say even just for the position of a squad place.'"



I think Agar said something in his presser about it showed that some of the lads are ready and it could influence his squad choices going forward (I'm totally paraphrasing as I can't quite remember how he phrased it)

For me Tindall looked totally ready physically to get more game time, I would also like to see him in the squad most weeks even if he doesn't play every week.

There were a few others that looked a bit light to me, Corey Hall especially but they are very young so they will fill out naturally.

Tindall, Muizz, Walters, Oconner and Harrison are the ones that I would like to see more of this yer.

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Tindall definitely on the cusp of replacing L Briscoe on one wing agreed. Second row is harder when we have first grade players available, but hopefully those lads will get their opportunity in the "full" side at some point.

I don't think anyone who played big minutes against Cats was going to play against Wigan too.

I'd like to see some of the young lads we didn't see against Catalans play this year too - even if it's for spells. Hope Walker pulls up alright, going to be interesting who gets selected at FB for Wigan.

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Quote: christopher "I think Agar said something in his presser about it showed that some of the lads are ready and it could influence his squad choices going forward (I'm totally paraphrasing as I can't quite remember how he phrased it)

For me Tindall looked totally ready physically to get more game time, I would also like to see him in the squad most weeks even if he doesn't play every week.

There were a few others that looked a bit light to me, Corey Hall especially but they are very young so they will fill out naturally.

Tindall, Muizz, Walters, Oconner and Harrison are the ones that I would like to see more of this yer.'"
Considering it was Walters first game in nearly a year he showed hes definitely ready.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "So.......anyway......

O'Connor 54 Tackles
Walters 44 Tackles
Muizz 34 Tackles.

Superb all 3.'"

Yet we d!cked around bringing in Evans Tnompson Ferres & Harrison whilst Luke Briscoe gets games as well. a026.gif
When our 1sr choice 17 isnt available or we rotate these young lads deserve the shirts more than any journy man or has been.
Hopefully the penny has dropped & Sinfield remembers exactly whst worked when he & the Golden generation got their chances at 1st Team RL.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK " Sinfield remembers exactly whst worked when he & the Golden generation got their chances at 1st Team RL.'"


Arguably that's exactly what he is doing, there were quite a few seasoned 'journey men' in the teams when they came through.

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I’m pretty sure that Andrew Dunnemann was described as a journeyman but he was vital to the introduction of our young halves.

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Quote: batleyrhino "I’m pretty sure that Andrew Dunnemann was described as a journeyman but he was vital to the introduction of our young halves.'"


Dunnemann
Mcdonald
Vowels
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Adamson
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I'm sure there's more that Ive forgotten about throughout those early years

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Ah, Chris Feather - almost in the same bracket as Karl Pryce for unfulfilled physical potential!

Sinfield is absolutely about developing the youth. The journeyman-type signings that have been made have been top bracket in professionalism if not ability - he is trying to instil work ethos into the new generation; these signings on the whole have been an investment in the youth still.

His challenge is to replicate the Goldens but in a new way, because we can't look back.

Real shame the Reserves has gone before it got started, it was really good timing for us with the stage of squad development we had. I think we can trust the club to bring the youth through in the right ways; not all the journeymen have made an impact on prospects for young lads, and if they have (Donaldson?) it's probably on merit. In fact quite a few senior & journeymen players are leaving at the end of this season and you'd think the youth will absolutely fill that gap. Most still do need to improve physically for regular SL of course - they all clearly know the pathway is open and are chomping at the bit, and good on them and the club.

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I think we also have to bear in mind how talented the core group of the ‘golden generation’ were its unlikely we’ll see a group that talented all come through at the same time, we have been very lucky to have witnesses it

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People forget how slowly the golden generation was brought through also. It wasnt that they was in the team and stayed in. They was brought through gradually.

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Didn't Sinny get dropped for the 2000?? Challenge Cup final after playing prior to it, and same happened to McGuire in 2003 I think.

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Quote: finglas "Didn't Sinny get dropped for the 2000?? Challenge Cup final after playing prior to it, and same happened to McGuire in 2003 I think.'"



Yep, dropping Mcguire after his semi final performance was pretty harsh!

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And stupid.

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Quote: christopher "Dunnemann
Mcdonald
Vowels
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Adamson
Connolly

I'm sure there's more that Ive forgotten about throughout those early years'"


You seriously think Dunneman, Vowles, Adamson, Connolly were journeymen? These were top top signings, nothing close to a semi retired Ferres, Thompson, or Evans.

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Quote: Gotcha "You seriously think Dunneman, Vowles, Adamson, Connolly were journeymen? These were top top signings, nothing close to a semi retired Ferres, Thompson, or Evans.'"



I think they were signings that were moaned about at the time for the same reasons people are moaning about those players you mention blocking the path of youngsters, which was the point of the discussion.

Fact is Ferres and Evans won't even play a handful of games this year and the other point is in this season if we have to play a team like we did on Wednesday players like Ferres, Thompson and Evans will actually help the youngsters.

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