So childish insults all you can co e up with.

nope. but you seriously don't think saying all the people you know who voted out are thick??

I rest my case

As did I - thought it would be about 55%-45% Remain. Seems like many waverers held their nerve.

I voted to leave. I voted to leave for a few reasons, but immigration wasn't one of them. I was undecided for a while, but I then asked myself if I was voting to join the EU would I do so in it's current state? The answer is no. I've had doubts about the EU since the Euro was ludicrously created resulting in the shafting of the likes of Portugal, Spain, and Greece. The Greece fiasco, in particular was a disgrace, and proved to me that the EU, and ECB are not organisations we should have anything to do with.

But that's not what a said though was it.

I think we have an "Eats shoots & leaves/Eats, shoots, & leaves" problem here

Your original sentenceTrouble is everyone I know bar one or two who voted out are racist and thick, most people's argument is purely based on phoney nationalism and immigration.

Did you mean it in the context "everyone I know, bar one or two who voted out, are racist & thick" ie the Remainers you know are racist & thick & you only know one or two Brexiters.

or "everyone I know, bar one or two, who voted out are racist & thick" ie you know one or two Remainers, the rest are Brexiters who are racist & thick.

Two very different statements, depending upon where your commas are placed. Having read some of your earlier posts I now suspect you meant the former. However, I can see where the confusion for Tad arose. Punctuation can be important (that sounds grossly condescending - sorry)

I don't mind admitting I feel really sad. ..and frankly afraid of the genie now out of the bottle. I heard a man openly loudly say in a car park today that now we can get the fekking Poles out of the country.

Whether we like it or not many like this now feel emboldened.

Of course not everbody that voted Brexit are racists, bigots and xenophobes ...but all racists, bigots and xenophobes certainly voted Brexit.

Fundamentally the country is equally divided....this will take a long time to heal. I particularly sorry for my son and his friends who all voted Remain (part of the 75%) ...they feel particularly betrayed by the "old b'stards living in the past and whose pensions we have to pay".

You were one of the ones on here I thought was quite measured and clever on the Brexit side....it's a shame so many were not ....and are not.

Farage saying "a victory for ordinary people, decent people"....so the 48% are not?? The man has a lot to answer for.

I now understand how the Scots must have felt...indeed from listening to the radio today I now know. Although they were disappointed in this result they had no appetite for yet another divisive referendum, which pitted family members and former friends against each other. It WILL be interesting to see if the SNP will be the next to fulfill THEIR raison d'etre. Either way my son and his girlfriend have been looking at jobs in Edingburgh in the hope they will yet find a way to remain EU members.

As I say...truly sad day. I don't think I will be on here for quite some time (if ever). Somehow now RL just becomes even more trivial than ever it was before.

I can hear the cheers from Loiner81, Printer, Juan etc.

Bloody baby boomer brexit voters! Hogging all the wealth, with their careers done, mortgages paid off and pensions sorted. Probably had the least to lose if it goes to the dogs.

Whilst the first quote is obviously a dumb opinion held to discriminate against a certain group, is the what seems to be increasing 'blame' and finger pointing at the 'old vote' acceptable too?

Starting to see a lot of complaining that these "old folk" won't have to live with the consequences for too long unlike the younger generation.....so what? Should we have put an age limit on the vote and said no one over 50 could vote?

My point is it is symptomatic.....people like that now feel emboldened: genie out of the bottle.

And yes...I think we should have probably put an upper age of 50 on it? It is not fair that the old can impose any hugely important long term irreversible decision on the young.

There should have been an IQ test too

My point and (more importantly) my son's and his friends' point too. Utterly unfair that they should pay any future price. Their bloody pensions should be first in line for any price that needs to be paid.

Disgraceful



This I would undoubtedly agree with. If someone had made this comment earlier, I truly would not have been able to refute it. Instead, the Remainers (not all) shot themselves in the foot & effectively claimed you had to be a racist to vote Brexit. Now, I will be honest & tell you that I was quite unashamedly Brexit from the start, but I can understand how this aggressive & insulting approach grated with people (like Printer).



All I can tell you, your son, & his friends is that after the emotion has dissipated just relax & get on with your lives. I have great confidence in this country's ability to remain (poor choice of word!) at the forefront of world affairs. The world is an exponentially smaller place than when I was growing up in the 70's. We do not need an unelected bureaucracy to lead us by the hand. Our business leaders are perfectly capable of successfully selling their goods & services to places throughout the world.



That's very kind of you, but I have to argue on behalf of the likes of Juan, Printer, Tad (there are probably others) in that I think they have all put forward salient points without resorting to petty name calling or point-scoring (I must admit I slipped into a bit of this with craigizzard this morning, much to my shame!)



Agreed

We need young people to come into the country, pay taxes - paying for pensions and healthcare. The population is ageing and birth rates are crap. Germany has a similiar issue with birth rates, one of the reasons merkel was desperate to take loads of migrants. We've just alienated the rest of europe. Little england.

Ok, but I was too young to vote in 1973. I think it is utterly unfair that I was liable for any shortfall in pensions of the old buggers who voted to join the EEC in the first place.

But the remain vote pointed out that leaving wouldn't stop immigration.