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| Emperor [delPalpatine[/del Hetherington always gets his way, Karth Vader had the deciding vote.
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| Quote: cheekydiddles "So IF we win it from 7th surely even the Wigan fans couldn't grumble this time
Given it'll be a Top 4 play-off format (1 v 4, 2 v 3), I'd be astonished if anyone won it from 7th.
Or even 5th!
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| Quote: Wire Yed "Emperor [delPalpatine[/del Hetherington always gets his way, Karth Vader had the deciding vote.'"
That's just one way you get to [deljames[/del rule.
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| Quote: William Eve "Very simple structure and very nicely summarised.
Not complicated at all unless there's an agenda in play and/or someone is just patently too stupid to understand.
Lovely jubbly, exciting times ahead
Buying a season ticket, Mr Eve?
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| Wouldn't it make sense if the 7 games were tied in with magic weekend? Either by having the magic weekend in the last 7 games, or by the team which is at 'home' in the magic weekend getting the Extra home game in the 8s section
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| Quote: Clearwing "Buying a season ticket, Mr Eve?
Nope, because I'm a fan of the game rather than a one-club supporter.
Anyhow, the last time I checked, Super League in 2014 remained a 14 team, top 8 play-off farce, therefore there's still one more season of meaningless regular season SL fixtures which do not interest me in the slightest.
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| Quote: William Eve "Nope, because I'm a fan of the game rather than a one-club supporter.
Anyhow, the last time I checked, Super League in 2014 remained a 14 team, top 8 play-off farce, therefore there's still one more season of meaningless regular season SL fixtures which do not interest me in the slightest.'"
I meant for 2015 but fair comment.
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| Quote: William Eve "Given it'll be a Top 4 play-off format (1 v 4, 2 v 3), I'd be astonished if anyone won it from 7th.
Or even 5th!
You know what I was saying....7th after the 'regular qualifying' season to then make the top 4 shoot out for Old Trafford
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| Quote: MjM "It's not supposed to. Improving the competition structure isn't supposed to be the solution to all of RL's challenges. Participation levels will not vary significantly according to the structure being used by the professional teams.'"
So exactly which challenges does it solve?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "So exactly which challenges does it solve?'"
I would say that it:
makes the season more competitive - more games that mean something.
Gives us a decent play-off series
Provides a means to have P&R
Spreads more money to the lower leagues
Gives teams in the lower leagues something to aim at
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| Quote: The Eagle "I would say that it
It certainly gives a means to P&R.
It appears it might spread money to lower leagues, although nothing confirmed.
It does mean more games will be meaningful than we have now, throughout the regular weeks.
Not sure how it gives a decent play off series. A top four really isn't a series, it's two games for a wining team.
More importantly it places more games than we currently play on players already continually knackered, and continually moaning about. As it stands the split happens around the time of another competition reaching it's climax and a distraction. We already have a competition that is not 100% fair by the Magic Weekend round, the new proposals make the fairness element even worse when it comes to the final seven games.
Personally would have dropped the final seven rounds for the top eight, and just had the play offs. They will be irrelevant meaningless games for two or three of the teams anyway. At least that way the players wouldn't have an handicap when it came to end of season internationals.
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| Any changes to Dual registration. Dual reg for SL /Championship clubs could now become an issue.
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| Quote: Gotcha "It certainly gives a means to P&R.
It appears it might spread money to lower leagues, although nothing confirmed.
It does mean more games will be meaningful than we have now, throughout the regular weeks.
Not sure how it gives a decent play off series. A top four really isn't a series, it's two games for a wining team.
More importantly it places more games than we currently play on players already continually knackered, and continually moaning about. As it stands the split happens around the time of another competition reaching it's climax and a distraction. We already have a competition that is not 100% fair by the Magic Weekend round, the new proposals make the fairness element even worse when it comes to the final seven games.
Personally would have dropped the final seven rounds for the top eight, and just had the play offs. They will be irrelevant meaningless games for two or three of the teams anyway. At least that way the players wouldn't have an handicap when it came to end of season internationals.'"
No can do regarding the last part. For financial reasons clubs won't want as few as 11 home games a years. This new system will see them with either 15 or 14 home games. That's a big difference to their finances.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "No can do regarding the last part. For financial reasons clubs won't want as few as 11 home games a years. This new system will see them with either 15 or 14 home games. That's a big difference to their finances.'"
Don't dissagree, but that highlights exactly where the problems lie. Finances is number one, the product down the list. Those believing this is a monumental change in the right direction from a top level point of view are kidding themselves. From a lower level yes, top level no.
Yes, you may well see the first 10 rounds of the competition more meaningful than they would under the old system, but that will be offset by the meaningless fixtures at the end by 3 or 4 clubs. Possibly even worse, as by the 11th/12th round you will probably see at least two clubs already resigned to the bottom four finish and saving themselves for the play off format, therefore making their regular round fixtures meaningless again.
Where it will have a particular set back is on the development of youngsters into teams, as some won't take the risks, where they would have done previously, depending on when their easier games are.
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| Quote: craigizzard "The bonus for the clubs is they get 14 (or 15) home games instead of the current 13.
It's not as if the clubs hosting an extra game are going to lose money doing so, even if season tickets effectively get in free for that. There are enough away fans/walk-ups/bar & merchandise sales to more than cover overheads.
There are plenty of problems with the restructure, but the 14/15 game season ticket issue isn't one of them'"
That’s a fairly bold claim, there are pretty big match day costs and overheads, its pretty presumptuous to think there isn’t a break-even point simply on match day revenue versus costs. Leeds have about 10k season ticket holders and an average of about 15k. That would mean that another ‘free’ game would actually be a game where Leeds needed to open Headingly and have match day overheads and costs to cater for a 15k attendance, but actually only the ticket income from 5k fans. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a match like that make a loss.
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