|
 |
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 18092 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Him="Him"Quote Him="El Diablo"Keith Senior may well be past his best, but his best was so far ahead of 90% of the centres we produce in this country, that even now he's a good option for a lot of Super League clubs. Leeds need to look to the future now, IMO, but I'd be a bit surprised if no SL club finds a place for Senior in thier squad if he recovers properly from his injury.'"
Yep I'd agree with that. Senior is better than many alternatives in SL currently. Playing a young lad instead of Senior simply because they're young doesn't suddenly mean that SL have produced a youngster of better quality. If hes better than the alternative his age is irrelevant.'"
OK so how do the young players develop - how do they get the top level game experiance required to be a top player - sometimes you have to take a step back to take a leap forward.
I repeat - the fact most on here are suggesting Senior is still in the top 50% of centres in this game is a very sad indictment of SL and its youth development. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 9730 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2008 | 17 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2017 | Mar 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"I repeat - the fact most on here are suggesting Senior is still in the top 50% of centres in this game is a very sad indictment of SL and its youth development.'"
Or you could see it as the last roar of Super League's Greatest Ever Centre.
Depends how you view a glass at 50% capacity. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Owner | 1466 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2004 | 21 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2017 | Jul 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
I've heard on the grapevine Keith might after all end up with his old mate John Kear in 2012...
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 18092 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote thebloodbath="thebloodbath"Quote thebloodbath="Sal Paradise"I repeat - the fact most on here are suggesting Senior is still in the top 50% of centres in this game is a very sad indictment of SL and its youth development.'"
Or you could see it as the last roar of Super League's Greatest Ever Centre.
Depends how you view a glass at 50% capacity.'"
Jamie Lyon was SL greatest ever centre by quite some distance.
Regardless of how you view it the fact remains we are not developing the volume of players of sufficient quality. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 9730 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2008 | 17 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2017 | Mar 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Jamie Lyon was SL greatest ever centre by quite some distance.
'"
Quite a claim for 2 seasons worth of rugby, compared to someones whole career. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 1309 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Aug 2011 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jun 2021 | Jun 2021 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Quote Sal Paradise="thebloodbath"Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"I repeat - the fact most on here are suggesting Senior is still in the top 50% of centres in this game is a very sad indictment of SL and its youth development.'"
Or you could see it as the last roar of Super League's Greatest Ever Centre.
Depends how you view a glass at 50% capacity.'"
=#FF0000Jamie Lyon was SL greatest ever centre by quite some distance.
Regardless of how you view it the fact remains we are not developing the volume of players of sufficient quality.'"
Nonsense  |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 7376 | Leeds Rhinos |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2008 | 17 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Feb 2025 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Quote Sal Paradise="thebloodbath"Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"I repeat - the fact most on here are suggesting Senior is still in the top 50% of centres in this game is a very sad indictment of SL and its youth development.'"
Or you could see it as the last roar of Super League's Greatest Ever Centre.
Depends how you view a glass at 50% capacity.'"
Jamie Lyon was SL greatest ever centre by quite some distance.
Regardless of how you view it the fact remains we are not developing the volume of players of sufficient quality.'"
Keith Senior was SL greatest ever centre |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 14970 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jun 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2021 | Nov 2021 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Quote Sal Paradise="Him"Quote Sal Paradise="El Diablo"Keith Senior may well be past his best, but his best was so far ahead of 90% of the centres we produce in this country, that even now he's a good option for a lot of Super League clubs. Leeds need to look to the future now, IMO, but I'd be a bit surprised if no SL club finds a place for Senior in thier squad if he recovers properly from his injury.'"
Yep I'd agree with that. Senior is better than many alternatives in SL currently. Playing a young lad instead of Senior simply because they're young doesn't suddenly mean that SL have produced a youngster of better quality. If hes better than the alternative his age is irrelevant.'"
OK so how do the young players develop - how do they get the top level game experiance required to be a top player - sometimes you have to take a step back to take a leap forward.
I repeat - the fact most on here are suggesting Senior is still in the top 50% of centres in this game is a very sad indictment of SL and its youth development.'"
Of course young players have to play, but they also have to be of a certain standard in the first place, do you seriously think that EVERY club in SL has 2 young centres just waiting to be unleashed upon SL?
It's a silly argument to suggest that no club in SL should sign Senior in case it might block some mythical youngsters development, regardless of that youngsters and Seniors relative abilities. That's an argument that clubs shouldn't ever sign anyone and should play their youngsters regardless of ability or readiness.
Presumably you think Saints shouldn't have signed Jamie Lyon then. After all he blocked Ian Hardman's development. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 1085 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2011 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Oct 2015 | Jun 2015 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote thebloodbath="thebloodbath"Quote thebloodbath="Sal Paradise"I repeat - the fact most on here are suggesting Senior is still in the top 50% of centres in this game is a very sad indictment of SL and its youth development.'"
Or you could see it as the last roar of Super League's Greatest Ever Centre.
Depends how you view a glass at 50% capacity.'"
I've just come to the conclusion that perhaps it's no coincidence that Sal Paradise is an anagram of Alas! Despair. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 488 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2011 | 13 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Oct 2012 | Oct 2012 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Regarding who is the best centre ever to play in SL, it is difficult on how you define best!
Judging both players on how good each player was at his peak then I would say Jamie Lyon is better (not by a long way), however judging on his contribution to SL then Senior gets it (by a mile).
Luckily there are 2 centre spots available in a team and one with both of them in at there best wouldnt be half bad.
Paul Newlove and Tuigamala (sp) were not bad either
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 757 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2009 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jan 2012 | Jan 2012 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
I've no idea where he's going, but we'd all be happy to have him at Keighley! As well as being a top player - he could certainly do a job at Championship level - he'd get the crowds coming down, important from our point of view.
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 2570 | Leeds Rhinos |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Aug 2008 | 17 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Feb 2024 | Oct 2023 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Hull Kod R'eds from what I here
|
|
|
|
|
|
