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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "Tui outstanding for Tonga so far.'"
There need to be serious questions about how Leeds/Furner used and mismanaged someone who this morning looked like pretty much the best player in the world. He's just been MOM in a victory against the Kangaroos. Yes behind a brutal and winning pack but for him to fail to perform with Leeds raises a lot of questions, not least when he has been effective for Salford as well.
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| Agreed. He was outstanding against GB too. Think we can see why Furner was sacked.
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| He was a player low on confidence who came into a team lacking confidence, so its no surprise he struggled.
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "There need to be serious questions about how Leeds/Furner used and mismanaged someone who this morning looked like pretty much the best player in the world. He's just been MOM in a victory against the Kangaroos. Yes behind a brutal and winning pack but for him to fail to perform with Leeds raises a lot of questions, not least when he has been effective for Salford as well.'"
You are disregarding Tuis part in this though, he looked disinterested and unfit, sometimes it just doesn’t work out for a player, if he had been playing for us with a set of forwards like Tonga have I dare say you may have seen a different player aswell
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| Precisely. At Leeds he played behind a beaten pack most weeks, was in poor condition when he arrived, was disinterested most of the time, and it was the right decision to let him go.
What happens after he leaves is irrelevant as it wouldn’t have happened at Leeds.
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| Quote: Trebor1 "Agreed. He was outstanding against GB too. Think we can see why Furner was sacked.'"
To be fair Furner wasn’t why it didn’t work. He identified the problems, but couldn’t get the changes to make it work with support. Lolohea was just as bad in many games after Furner left, before the club without Furner long since involved got rid.
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| Quote: batleyrhino "Precisely. At Leeds he played behind a beaten pack most weeks, was in poor condition when he arrived, was disinterested most of the time, and it was the right decision to let him go.
What happens after he leaves is irrelevant as it wouldn’t have happened at Leeds.'"
100% This.
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| Hurrell was rock solid on the right side against latrell Mitchell.
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| Quote: batleyrhino "Precisely. At Leeds he played behind a beaten pack most weeks, was in poor condition when he arrived, was disinterested most of the time, and it was the right decision to let him go.
What happens after he leaves is irrelevant as it wouldn’t have happened at Leeds.'" It's a coach's job to get the best out of his players. They all respond differently and all have slightly different motivations and personalities. Yes the player has responsibilities but the difference in performance levels between Tui at Leeds and Tui after a few months at Salford, never mind Tui for Tonga can't just be ignored.
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| Quote: Gotcha "To be fair Furner wasn’t why it didn’t work. He identified the problems, but couldn’t get the changes to make it work with support. Lolohea was just as bad in many games after Furner left, before the club without Furner long since involved got rid.'"
Yeah appreciate what you're saying but for me Furner couldnt get the players to play for him. When Agar took over, for me many of the players were at rock bottom. I think Tui had not settled at all and downed tools then wanted out.
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| Did Furner have the players he wanted? Sinfield in charge of recruitment so he needs to take a lot of the blame
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| Merrin back until the NRL transfer merry-go-round kicks in. Hopefully he gets a deal sorted quickly and gives us a chance to find a replacement
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| I haven't seen Leeds games this year, except the ones on sky,
But surly..
The Tonga forwards are giving Lolohea a better platform to perform then the Rhinos forwards did all season?
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| Quote: Bang "Merrin back until the NRL transfer merry-go-round kicks in. Hopefully he gets a deal sorted quickly and gives us a chance to find a replacement'"
He’ll go down a fair bit in my estimations if he leaves before or even early on in the season, I don’t expect him to see out the rest of his contract but Id like him to stay for the rest of next season
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| Quote: batleyrhino "Precisely. At Leeds he played behind a beaten pack most weeks, was in poor condition when he arrived, was disinterested most of the time, and it was the right decision to let him go.
What happens after he leaves is irrelevant as it wouldn’t have happened at Leeds.'"
On top of all this, Tui was hardly ripping up the NRL when he signed, with NRL clubs falling over each other to sign him...
He was just the wrong player at the wrong time for Leeds, unfortunately.
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