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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Quote: Sal Paradise "You can call me what you like - it is for others to judge the validity of your accusations. '"


Sorry I was talking to William, I quoted you to show he was wrong, as usual.

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I made my point at the time and nothing in the intervening period has changed my opinion.'"


No you lied and when asked multiple times by multiple members to back it up you disappeared and didn't post for 2 weeks.
I think that said it all.

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Quote: loiner81 "Sal? Hello?'"


To end this pretty quickly go back an open up that thread - then it will refresh everyone's mind of just what was actually posted?

You seem so determined to prove something so now is your opportunity - how many posters on here are you prepared to alienate - let's see just how big are your balls?

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Quote: Sal Paradise "To end this pretty quickly go back an open up that thread - then it will refresh everyone's mind of just what was actually posted?

You seem so determined to prove something so now is your opportunity - how many posters on here are you prepared to alienate - let's see just how big are your balls?'"


One more time, since you seem to be struggling with this one. I'll even put it in bold for you.

I never disputed that people were defending him, lots were. I remember it well, it wasn't that long ago.

It's your comment claiming that all those same people are now sticking the knife in that I questioned.
Will you be backing it up ? William tried but made a fool of himself...

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Quote: loiner81 "Sorry I was talking to William, I quoted you to show he was wrong, as usual.

No you lied and when asked multiple times by multiple members to back it up you disappeared and didn't post for 2 weeks.
I think that said it all.'"


You are entitled to your opinion - we will never agree - I have not posted on here for two weeks so stop lying. There were as many people who interpreted the posts the way I saw it did you and yours. If you can live with your conscience so be it and I will leave it at that

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Quote: Sal Paradise "You are entitled to your opinion - we will never agree - I have not posted on here for two weeks so stop lying. There were as many people who interpreted the posts the way I saw it did you and yours. If you can live with your conscience so be it and I will leave it at that

Me thinks you protest too much
No it's not an opinion Sal. I posted links that proved you were talking absolute rubbish and you went into hiding.
Do you want me to post them again for you?

This weekend you've accused half the members of this board of saying things they haven't said. You're now doing your very best to avoid discussing it.
Will you be posting any links or evidence of all these board members "sticking the knife in" or is William's pathetic effort all we're going to see?

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Looks like Sal's gone to another bonfire.

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Wow this is getting ridiculous even by SS past efforts (me included btw before owt else gets dragged up).
He's moving we know it we also know his past & the other rumours the fact is he isn't going to be a Leeds player anymore lets all move on.

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Signed for Castleford. Ben crooks loaned to leigh to make room on the salary cap for him.

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Soon we will be dancing the Fandango FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS. JAMIE PEACOCK:



I wonder what sort of Fee Leeds are being paid?

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word out of the stanningley club house is that cas tried to get zak on the cheap knowing that we would not be playing him in 2017 irrespective of what he wanted to do.

cas then tried to make out that they lost interest in signing him if they couldn't get him for their valuation,and that their 2017 squad was then complete when we wouldn't agree to their terms of the offer

but surprisingley as soon as the giants and salford came in for him they were then trying to offload players left right and for 2017 to be able to get him signed up

imo he's cas bound and the rhinos have received a decent fee for his release which was well above what cas' initial offer was

i think zak is without doubt the best fb in sl,but he needs to move on to progress his career,hence why the rhinos will not have him on their roster for 2017 under any circumstances what so ever.despite zak thinking otherwise and that he thought that he would be welcomed back with openened arms after his penrith experience

time will tell whether or not if zak can full fill his potential,but imo it's a shame that he had too many outside influences to do it whilst at leeds

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In the same way that serial killers are deemed 'serial' if they kill at least 3 people, serial offenders or miscreants are deemed 'serial' if they offend at least 3 times.

Hardaker may be deemed a serial miscreant before the homophobic incidents and the assault of a student because he'd already offended at least 3 times. Call it 3 strikes and you are a serial miscreant.

He offended no less than 3 times whilst in camp with the England squad during the RLWC2013... rlLINKrl

Strike 1 - Hardaker was one of several England players who disobeyed an alcohol curfew in the aftermath of the defeat against Italy. Others implicated were Hock, Graham and McIlorum. Hock was dismissed from the England squad for also missing a swimming session the next morning. Graham and McIlorum sat out the opening RLWC fixture against Australia as punishment.

Strike 2 - At some stage during the England camp, Hardaker was involved in another incident which involved fighting and as a consequence, he didn't get selected to play against Ireland. McNamara claimed Hardaker was ill and got very annoyed at a press conference when it was put to him the reason for Hardaker's absence was due to another incident taking place (fighting) which may, or may not have taken place in camp at Loughborough.

Strike 3 - Hardaker once again disobeyed an alcohol curfew claiming that he didn't believe it should relate to him because he hadn't been selected to play for England against Fiji. As a consequence, he was booted from the squad. McNamara and others couldn't resolve the issues caused by Hardaker's behaviour and sought help from the Leeds Rhinos who duly intervened, launched an investigation of their own and fined him £2,500.

Hardaker's expulsion from the England squad was spun as [i'personal issues'[/i, [i'couldn't reach the standards which had been set for the group'[/i and he was very sorry for all the embarrassment he had caused.

On his return the Leeds club, it allegedly didn't take very long for the Serial Miscreant to reject notions of apology and personal responsibility. Instead, he allegedly got the hump with McDermott and Hetherington because they insisted he engage in some form of penance. Allegedly, he was unable to go on his holiday as planned as a result and, according to one of his biggest fans on this forum, he would never forgive those two or the club for the way they treated him. It was also alleged that he delayed signing new contract at the club as a result.

I referred to the above allegations by one of his biggest fans on this forum as rlHOLIDAYGATE!rl but the link has now mysteriously disappeared (deleted) icon_cool.gif

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Quote: Jonesy's a Legend "imo he's cas bound and the rhinos have received a decent fee for his release which was well above what cas' initial offer was'"

You ought to apply for a job as GH's next spin doctor icon_cool.gif

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Quote: lionarmour87 "I wonder what sort of Fee Leeds are being paid?'"


£110k

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Quote: cheekydiddles "£110k'"

Sorry, you haven't made the shortlist icon_wink.gif

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i will bet my bottom dollar it was no where near 110 k unless over a period of games played . Anyone paying that amount up front for a guy who has his off field recordl and never will be reliable off the field need to take a long hard look at themselves . Shows how desperate Hardaker is because he is alleged to hate Cas with a passion in the past

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