Of course why not!

I have lived and worked over here since 2002 apart from a taking a gap 3 years to spend time with our new grandchildren in Morayshire recently. We even voted in the Scottish referendum but that was to stay in!

As you probably know, Waitrose & John Lewis are unique amongst major retailers by being owned by their employees thanks to the foresight & beneficence of their founder.
Therefore not the normal capitalist model.
Possibly one of the reasons why W E shops there.

I seem to remember half a thread on this the last time it came up.

Our town (we don't live there but it's where the kids go to school) is very old, small and wealthy, a bit like the population by the looks of things in the barbers this morning. We have a Co-op's and a Waitrose. The Co-op is the place I go and pretend it's 1987 and I'm back on the dole and the Waitrose is where I go to be wallet raped.

Some proper old school thread drift here. Well done. Makes me feel all nostalgic.

Well you can always rely on William and his follower Sal drifting a thread towards Australia or along the lines of how cr@p things are. Tried likewise on the Lilley thread and even the Millward RIP thread they had to get in sly "back when we could produce proper quality" barbs on a thread designed to pay respect to somebody who has passed away, not have a concealed dig about today's product, but nothing surprises me about their lack of class.

No need the sun heats the pool. As it happens I don't get the winter fuel payment because I wasn't retirement age when we first came here so I miss out. However I do not begrudge those that do because it is a supplement to what is a low basic pension and although there are 320 days of sunshine p.a. houses still need heating in the evenings for 3 winter months and unlike you need air conditioning in 3 summer months. So why should pensioners that worked and paid into the pot for the full quota be penalised just because they choose to spend their retirement in the sunshine?

For the record many pensioners living in Spain are taxed at source in the UK and I pay personal tax in Spain and company tax in the UK. I would guess that the majority of expats here will vote to remain because of the risk of losing the excellent free health care. I favour democracy and therefore Brexit.

At present I'm minded not to vote in the Conservative leadership campaign.

Cameron claimed he'd be prepared to lead the leave campaign if he didn't get what he was asking for (which was next to nowt to begin with) he didn't and now claims the country will implode if we leave.

If leaving is going to be so disastrous why would any sane government open the exit door or take any notice of an adverse result.

None of it makes any sense.

Nail on the head.

This EU referendum is all about the Tories and the leadership of the party.

More specifically, it's becoming a spat between two former Bullingdon Club members.

Stay or Go? Doesn't matter. We'll still get shafted either way. Choice between two neoliberal paths ain't a choice IMO.

Absolutely.

Makes me laugh when people stay we need to grab back our sovereignity and democracy. Do they really think it will make a blind bit of difference to their average Joe who gives a toss about your lives? FPTP is hardly a beacon of democracy. If voting could really change anything it would be made illegal. Bring on a USE for me, if only to fuk off the Tories. Labour is dead now with the rise of SNP and the boundary changes

Care not for voting or whose in charge, I'm doing a good job of looking after myself regardless of whose running the country. Those that b*tch and whine about it should look at themselves, because if they did things right it wouldn't matter which party ran the country.

Good luck looking after yourself if you fall badly ill.

Yet I won't fair any worst than those who do vote.

Bullsh|t.

Yep, exactly.

I'm more concerned about TTIP and so should everyone else.

Do we get to vote on that horrific and sinister piece of corporate takeover?

Of course we don't.