Oh even as a leeds fan how I laugh. Done deal in January I believe, good sources they say as well. I'll never reveal my source but he or she is always bang on the money.

FWIW the stumbling block with the Leeds approach was the contract length we offered. We werent willing to offer three years. it wa 2 years with an option to a third. Also Hull offered a litle bit more moohlah

The Cooke debacle was instigated by him and HKR wasn't it?
Surely KH like everyone else at your club trusted his word when he verbally agreed the deal other han hold a gun to his head and make him sign there and then what could she alone have done?
We've built up over years of laying the foundations within the whole club structure and within the acadamy set up.
Plus we had numerous amounts of exemplory work by numerous individuals nor did we have an owner come in and tell anyone and everyone that we were gonna do this that and the other and get to the top.
As for the slowly building many on here have pointed that out and highlighted that Ellis alone won't get you up there and have you challenging every year whereas some of your lot find that hard top accept and see it as some kind of arrogance ,bitterness or jealousy.
I'll also add you are soon losing T.Briscoe to the NRL are you not? If/when that occurs it seems you make 1 step forward and 2 back.

Fair points but Pearson has overhauled the clubs academy completely and we should see some benefits of it,we have already debuted young players this season.Pearon has just said what his ambition is for the club and sooner hear that than the silence from previous board.I know its a building process and am prepared for that.As for Briscoe,good luck to him for wanting to prove himself over there...unlike TWBW,who wants to stay here ...Briscoe is good but not great like others tend to say and we may promote Lineham from U-20S so isnt that a good thing.

If Hull win something with Ellis, he'll be credited as playing a major role in turning around their fortunes.

If Ellis came back to Leeds, to be part of yet another title winning side, he'll just be another good player in a long line of good players, playing second fiddle to the likes of Sinfield et al. who have been there for the duration of the successful period. Ellis was also part of that in the past as well - going to Hull is more of a fresh challenge.

More scope for individual glory at Hull IMO, assuming he's not being offered more money as the reports claim.

Was that actually offered to Ellis? or was that what was requested in talks?

Like I said earlier, from a reliable source, Leeds never got round to actually offering a contract to Ellis.

Maybe they felt because of the contract length it was not worth pursuing? Hardly here or there really though.

Well I suppose when they've had nothing much else to cheer about,So cheering their chairman and thumbing their noses at the 5times sl champions after they beat them to the signature of one of their ex players will have to do.For now?

As far as balance goes I think Griffin is a better signing for our squad than Ellis would be in the back row.

Good luck to him i say. Only a few weeks ago some folk were saying it would be good for SL if he went to a team out of the big 4, now he has, great signing for 'ull.

Didn't Ellis express a desire to return to a Yorkshire club? did Hull offer the highest salary of all the Yorkshire clubs?

Well, I stand by my earlier posts, I'd have been happy to have him back, but not devastated not to.

Whatever the offers (salary, other perks, contract lengths) obviously Hull made more sense for him, and presumably their offer made sense for them. Win win.

I think he's a cracking player (still would rather have JJB - which I said well before he signed for Hull before anyone starts, check the thread) and I agree with Hull fans saying it is a statement of intent/ambition from them.

Well done to Hull and Ellis, I can only wish him well after his performances for Leeds, and I think it'll be a good signing for a club that seems at the moment to be heading in the right direction after a disappointing few years.

That's great. My comments weren't in any way meant as a criticism of Hull's development of young players, merely a reflection that I'd prefer Leeds to develop new & hopefully even better ones. Far as I'm concerned how FC go about pursuing success is entirely a matter for them and their fans.

All of this.

Would've liked to have seen Ellis play for Leeds again but possibly more for nostalgia. Hopefully this means the club are putting alot of faith on Clarkson and Pitts et al.

Good signing for Hull, I only wish him well and he's sure to get a great reception when they visit Headingley. He could be their Morley-type signing and have a big impact on the club.

Indeed, this should be a great shot in the arm for Clarkson et al that Darth and the club have faith in them to develop and step up.

Are you joking?