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Quote: ThePrinter "2012 Silverwood deemed the best ref by RFL by getting both the CC and GF.

Times he officiated Wigan in the regular season

Wow! He's right.

I didn't quite see it before but this is solid, beyond all reasonable doubt fact!

I bet Ryan Bailey and Kirke must have been gay too cos I've no better reason as to how the funk soul brother those two used to get in the Leeds team every week!

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Where does Thierry Alibert getting the Wigan v Leeds game in 2012 ahead of those same refs fit in to the gay agenda?'"


Fits perfectly into positive discrimination. On this occasion its nationality instead of sexuality.

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Quote: HucknallLoiner "Wow! He's right.

I didn't quite see it before but this is solid, beyond all reasonable doubt fact!

I bet Ryan Bailey and Kirke must have been gay too cos I've no better reason as to how the funk soul brother those two used to get in the Leeds team every week!'"


Something about denial not just being a river in Egypt springing to mind here.

Still not hearing no explanations from his defenders, just trying to deflect by going on about Alibert, Bailey and Kirke.

How about staying with Child, WHY DID HE GET THOSE GAMES when other lower ranked refs didn't also? As has been shown it wasn't because the top ref officiated Wigan too often.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Nope. Repeating bigoted accusation long enough doesnt mean a reasonable person stops challenging it.'"


No one said it did, but along with the reasonable person, there are the deluded, the self important, the maniacal, the stubborn, the arrogant, the posers and the nothing better to do. Just thought a quick reality check might be useful. If you are happy that you are being entirely reasonable, I'll leave you and Printer to it icon_eek.gif

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Quote: ThePrinter "Fits perfectly into positive discrimination. On this occasion its nationality instead of sexuality.'"

and Ian Smith refereeing Leeds v Wigan in 09? is that positive discrimination towards the salt and pepper haired?

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Quote: TOMCAT "No one said it did, but along with the reasonable person, there are the deluded, the self important, the maniacal, the stubborn, the arrogant, the posers and the nothing better to do. Just thought a quick reality check might be useful. If you are happy that you are being entirely reasonable, I'll leave you and Printer to it not entirely reasonable, there has been a little bit of whimsy.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Something about denial not just being a river in Egypt springing to mind here.

Still not hearing no explanations from his defenders, just trying to deflect by going on about Alibert, Bailey and Kirke.

How about staying with Child, WHY DID HE GET THOSE GAMES when other lower ranked refs didn't also? As has been shown it wasn't because the top ref officiated Wigan too often.'"

Id also just like to point out that Silverwood and Thaler did referee a Wigan/leeds game in 2012 and Phil Bentham didnt referee after may 4th due to a broken leg.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Something about denial not just being a river in Egypt springing to mind here.

Still not hearing no explanations from his defenders, just trying to deflect by going on about Alibert, Bailey and Kirke.

How about staying with Child, WHY DID HE GET THOSE GAMES when other lower ranked refs didn't also? As has been shown it wasn't because the top ref officiated Wigan too often.'"

Nice try. It's up to you to provide evidence of your allegations.

So any evidence yet that Child got big games because he was gay?

Provide it.

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Quote: Him "Nice try. It's up to you to provide evidence of your allegations.

So any evidence yet that Child got big games because he was gay?

Provide it.'"


Nice try nothing.

If I provided the above information but in place of James Child it was a French man getting those same exact games......NOBODY ON HERE, would have a problem saying they've only given him those games because of his Nationality or criticise anybody who thought.

Double standards of thinking.

Nobody is fussed about criticising Alibert because French nationality isn't a touchy/no go area. If he'd had been a Muslim man I bet people wouldn't have been pointing that out as much as they did with his French nationality.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Nice try nothing.

If I provided the above information but in place of James Child it was a French man getting those same exact games......NOBODY ON HERE, would have a problem saying they've only given him those games because of his Nationality or criticise anybody who thought.

Double standards of thinking.

Nobody is fussed about criticising Alibert because French nationality isn't a touchy/no go area. If he'd had been a Muslim man I bet people wouldn't have been pointing that out as much as they did with his French nationality.'"

Do you know why Alibert was brought in? It was to try and get neutral referees for internationals. That's a possible reason for anyone to think Alibert may have got the gigs he did.

In what way does James Child being gay help RL? Again. Why would the RFL do it? What benefit do they get from it. Especially as, which you've agreed, nobody (or very few, it certainly wasn't common knowledge or anything pushed by the RFL) knew he was gay until recently.

Provide the evidence for your allegations.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Nice try nothing.

If I provided the above information but in place of James Child it was a French man getting those same exact games......NOBODY ON HERE, would have a problem saying they've only given him those games because of his Nationality or criticise anybody who thought.

Double standards of thinking.

Nobody is fussed about criticising Alibert because French nationality isn't a touchy/no go area. If he'd had been a Muslim man I bet people wouldn't have been pointing that out as much as they did with his French nationality.'"


What?

You allege Child gets big games because he's Gay.

You allege the RFL practices positive discrimination which is not legal in the UK.

The onus of proof is on you. You've given the scenarios. They are just scenarios, not proof.

You have alleged in writing for all to see that the RFL is breaking UK law but you fail to give any proof other than opinion.

Your friend who personally admitted to discriminating against people in the workplace has gone quiet. Would love to know who his alleged racist employers are.

Do you have other accusations you'd like to make in writing about the RFL? If they weren't so inept I'd be a little concerned about a letter through the post asking you to give evidence or shut up.

Your comments that the RFL give preference to people based on sexuality offends me and I would ask you to back up your comments or shut up and go back to discussing Leeds Rhinos.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Nice try nothing.

If I provided the above information but in place of James Child it was a French man getting those same exact games......NOBODY ON HERE, would have a problem saying they've only given him those games because of his Nationality or criticise anybody who thought.

Double standards of thinking.

Nobody is fussed about criticising Alibert because French nationality isn't a touchy/no go area. If he'd had been a Muslim man I bet people wouldn't have been pointing that out as much as they did with his French nationality.'"


In other words no I don't have any proof - just say it don't dodge the issue by changing the subject to a French referee.

Do you or do you not have any evidence that Child gets big games because he is gay?

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Quote: HucknallLoiner "What?

You allege Child gets big games because he's Gay.

You allege the RFL practices positive discrimination which is not legal in the UK.

The onus of proof is on you. You've given the scenarios. They are just scenarios, not proof.

You have alleged in writing for all to see that the RFL is breaking UK law but you fail to give any proof other than opinion.

Your friend who personally admitted to discriminating against people in the workplace has gone quiet. Would love to know who his alleged racist employers are.

Do you have other accusations you'd like to make in writing about the RFL? If they weren't so inept I'd be a little concerned about a letter through the post asking you to give evidence or shut up.

Your comments that the RFL give preference to people based on sexuality offends me and I would ask you to back up your comments or shut up and go back to discussing Leeds Rhinos.'"


Positive discrimination is not illegal in this country - I have given a specific example from the last general election to substantiate the point

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Quote: Him "Do you know why Alibert was brought in? It was to try and get neutral referees for internationals. That's a possible reason for anyone to think Alibert may have got the gigs he did. '"


So even though Alibert had officiated internationals dating back as far as the 2000 WC, he was brought in in 2009 so he could officiate Internationals. That's the 2nd different claim made against Alibert on here with the other being it was to keep Catalans happy.

Yet the RFL say he was appointed due to the departure of Ashley Klien.

So where's the proof of these Alibert accusations.......or is it ok to make accusations against French people but not gay ones. Remind me what treating people EQUALLY means?

As for the whole "benefit", as I've said before they don't need to be shouting from a megaphone. People are foolish to think sub-consciously people from certain miniority groups aren't treated the same even in a positive way in some cases.

I mean some of you are doing it now by happily attacking Alibert's appointment but not Child.

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Quote: ThePrinter "So even though Alibert had officiated internationals dating back as far as the 2000 WC, he was brought in in 2009 so he could officiate Internationals. That's the 2nd different claim made against Alibert on here with the other being it was to keep Catalans happy.

Yet the RFL say he was appointed due to the departure of Ashley Klien.

So where's the proof of these Alibert accusations.......or is it ok to make accusations against French people but not gay ones. Remind me what treating people EQUALLY means?

As for the whole "benefit", as I've said before they don't need to be shouting from a megaphone. People are foolish to think sub-consciously people from certain miniority groups aren't treated the same even in a positive way in some cases.

I mean some of you are doing it now by happily attacking Alibert's appointment but not Child.'"


Just answer the question - don't doge have you any proof that James Child has got to the position he has or gets big games because he is gay?

This is not a difficult question to answer is it really?

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