You won't beat Catalan unless you need to. Which is highly unlikely as Saints need to win all their remaining games to challenge you for 4th, which is highly unlikely!

Dull as dishwater. Another one that left me questioning why bother with a season ticket.

At one point Sinfield was at hooker, Hall at first receiver and McShane 2nd receiver.I'll be told soon this is ingenuity.

Surprised its taken you this long to query that. Leeds season doesn't begin until September. You'd be better off just buying a ticket for Old Trafford each year!

I'm surprised no-ones mentioned the fact that the Rovers players only had to get back 5 yards all night no wonder they kept up the intensity all night and were on top of us before we'd even had chance to pass the ball!

True...but it's up to the team to find some guile to overcome this. As per in the immortal words of Stevo why not 'chip over the top' ..or try some Dobson like kicks behind the line to get the opposition back tracking? There can be no excuse for the lack of ideas near the line, epitomised tonight by, what?, 30 consecutive tackles? Hopeless.

According to the usual suspects on Sky, the game was utterly compelling and edge-of-seat stuff just like yesterday's Warrington V Widnes game. Super League just keeps throwing up all these entertaining games and providing exciting shocks and what a fantastic round it's been so far.

This has been one of the poorest seasons I can remember....such poor fayre but yet Leeds are still guaranteed to finish in their highest position under McDermott's tenure. A sad reflection of the sliding SL standards IMO.

Compare and contrast to Dobson. Swap Burrow for Dobson and we would have won that by a cricket score, regardless of how Hull KR defend.

The obsession with going left to Hall was frustrating as hell. Hall is a great finisher in the main, a supremely powerful athlete. But he has no rugby brain at all, he simply can not read a game. We should mix it up and utilise the right.

Mind you one of the few times we went right, Burrow did his impression of never being to specsavers running to the southstand. A 15 yard pass to Duckworth and he was in. But no Burrow has to hold hold hold, then put it at the lads legs, when he had given up any hope of Burrow passing. A bombed opportunity, not the wingers fault.

The halfs until Sinfields brilliant last 15 minutes performance were just awful, and it is hard to have a go at others because the main receivers just didn't move the team around, and quite frankly had nothing in their locker.

It was all very slow and predictable, you could see what was coming a mile away.either Burrow would pick it up from dummy half and zip along the line before getting smashed or giving a hospital pass to a forward who was static,or Sinfield would get the ball in what seemed like slow motion and pass it out the back to either BJB or Sutcliffe time and time again.The KR defence, solid as it was, had a very easy time of reading what we were going to do.

Again,Watkins was not seeing enough of the ball.one of the biggest threats in the league its criminal how underused he is,i dont recall him brought into play during any of those five or six consecutive sets we had on their line in the second half.

im Trying not to read too much into it as we have been here before in recent years but hopefully after the week off and getting some more bodys back we can kick it up a gear or two for last two games before the play offs.

Well, to be fair i thought both games would have been routine wins for Wire and Leeds and they were poor choices for the TV games, but no matter how well you consider those two teams to have played both games were contests and the result was in doubt going into the last 5-10 minutes.Isnt that we have all been crying out for over the past few years? Much better than watching a one sided drubing if you ask me, even if my team lost and the standards were down a bit.

If that's 5 yards I hope you don't fit carpets

William eve's sarcasm on the matter is not appreciated.

This constant nostalgia and obsession with it ''being better back in the day'' is getting ridiculous. So much so that the early years of super league are now almost considered halycon days.

I think back to earlier times, say 2005, leeds could toss it off and play completley flat like they did last night but still win easily by 40 or 50 points, and they did so on many occasions. Back then people would bemoan the lack of competition, why can't the games be closer? why can't there be more upsets?

You can't win.

At the moment we seem a bit clueless with ball in hand, we just pass it along the line and hope a gap will appear, or someone will miss a tackle. Burrow in spite of his running across the line is trying to make something happen.
Our running from the play the ball was slow and predictable, credit to the rovers aggressive defence they did a good job on us. Our forwards were second best apart from JP.
So it looks like the fourth spot beckons with the prospect of a trip to the giants, things will have to improve or we will win nowt this season.
BM said in his post match interveiw that rovers had stopped some of the moves we were trying to do, unfortunately I could not see any of these moves. So rovers must have been spectacular successful or the moves were non existant.

First we are in that part of the year when the only people that seem to care about the rugby on show are the supporters. We are all aware that coded talk of peaking for the play offs and timing our run actually translates as we are going to finish 4th so we are going to play well within ourselves and keep plenty in the tank for the playoffs.

But at least we are used to it by now, and buy season tickets well aware that the dull rubbish served up last night comes as part of the package. They could even add that as a feature of membership on the marketing material and no one would bat an eyelid.

The ineptness with the ball last night was not an isolated one off, its the biggest issue this team have had under this coaching set up.

BJB had a bad night, and his defensive lapse was embarrassing, but the diabolical quality of ball he received was directly responsible for him consistently getting smashed.

Watkins (and Duckworth) were criminally underused, the failure to pass the ball right quickly and accurately is the kind of issue an U13's team should have not a team of internationals.

I had my doubts about McGuire coming back this season, but frankly it cannot come quick enough. Even if he is on one leg at least he has developed a range of passing and play-making that we so desperately need to open up defences; and if he does get picked it will surely see the end of McShane who cannot seem to put a foot right playing at HQ.

The only 'moves' as such i saw was the one with the player linking out the back which is simple and can be effective if done correctly( see Wigan) but moves like this only work off the back off good forward drives, quick play the balls, and forwards running good decoy lines to put doubt in the defenders minds.We had none of that hence the ease at which it was snuffed out time and again.

Fair play to KR though.They turned up with the right attitude and worked really hard for one another to get the result and fully deserved it.