If Mason has entered the country on an Australian passport and then, when he gets a Tongan passport, wants the right to work in the UK as a Tongan (to avoid the Salary cap), won't he have to leave the country and re-apply for the right to work in the UK? And then wait for approval to re-enter? If so then HKR risk not having Mason again for an extended period wil the UKBA sorts out the paperwork.

What a tangled web...but to be honest who REALLY cares ? The lacklustre RL will not enforce their own rules so why bother wasting so much time on discussing it.

Maybe Dobson is being paid the playing rate of salary whilst not playing, this would be within the calculation that Hull KR made at the beginning of the season and more than Dobson was "entitled to" everyone wins

I know the RFL have allowed this but for me this should be cheating the quota, Hull KR have already used their maximum number of foreign players, when Willie Mason the Australian plays that will be the maximum number+1. You should be allowed so many foreigners per year, not per game

The only clause them lot probably think they have found is santa, thats because most of them still believe he is real.

Earlier, because I was bored on a train, now because I only need my ears to listen to radio Leeds online, so my eyes and hands have nothing better to do....

Even if such a payment now exists, where is the evidence that Hull KR are in salary cap difficulties because of it.

There's equally a chance that KR (like other clubs claim to do) leave some space under the cap to react to the unforseen circumstances thrown up during the season. The Dobson contract termination appears to be related to quota rather than cap. (Which raises the spectre of which quota player will eventually be removed should Mason fail to produce the 'islander' passport.)



Sure, knock yourself out.

Cheers boss.


Lets rfemind ourselves of the question I posed that was being discussed shall we?

As far as I am aware you do not need evidence to pose a question.

That's true but it appeared that IA (who you referred to) felt there was potentially a drama here. As Hull KR would be working closely with the RFL to ensure everything was/is done above board within the rules governing the 'live' salary cap I just couldn't see one developing.

Likewise in compliance with the 'quota' regulations such as they are.

Considering the RFL have stated:

[i"Hull KR have sought dispensation to be able to re-register Dobson later in the season, it has been indicated to them that it will be granted, subject to the usual regulations being met at the time. A number of operational rules allow for dispensation to be granted whilst others are absolute and non-discretionary. With the rules, where dispensation may be applied, each case is judged on its own merits. =#FF0000The rule is in place to prevent clubs from stockpiling overseas players and developing a carousel of player changes to their squads throughout a season." [/i

Perhaps it's time to move along although it's debateable whether the rule has worked in this case.

All Dobsons have dodgy knees anyway

Hey Gadaffi, this aint no dictatorship. If I want to engineer meaningless debate I shall bloomin well do so with or without your approval.

There's a well worn Brouhgton discussion awaiting your attention elsewhere.

Watkins' potential has never been in doubt as long as he continues to develope his all round game. I never particularly saw it as an either/or between them rather a potential future left wing partnership as Senior and Donald approached the twilight of their Leeds careers. One of Broughton/Watkins/Jones-Bishop could comfortably IMO have been entrusted with the number 2 shirt for 2010 on Donald's expected departure at the end of 2009.

Having seen the latest statement by the RFL that KR seem to have agreed a special agreement to re-register Dobson, despite going against the RFL's own rules - should fans of all clubs (obviously except Rovers) not be requesting their club and directly to the RFL that this should not be permitted. The RFL law states that the rule is there to stop clubs stock piling overseas players and then cherry picking who plays on a weekly basis, yet in affect this is what Hull KR are doing. Seems to me they are not bending rules but shattering them - they already took the mickey by getting special dispensation to sign Mason on a Tongan passport (Blocking clubs such as Huddersfield / Salford who had a genuine quota space). Surely registering Mason to the RFL while keeping Dobson's contract should mean Hull KR have exceeded quota regulations and should not have been allowed to go ahead. If they are allowed to get away with this our game will desend into a farce. Why dont Wigan terminate Fieldens contract - sign a prop - Ewan Dowes for example - using Fieldens space on the cap, then simply when Fielden is fit, re-register and send Dowes back. (Fielden then gets paid for painting the chairmans fence while out of the game each month)

Dobson seems to be a topic on most fans forums - each agreeing he's a player that they would like at their club (me included) - what I want to see is each fan and each club not wanting to see Dobson in a KR shirt again this season (as the rules) and our games so called governors enforce the rules they create.

Failing that I urge Hull FC sign Greg inglis because I heard he drank a pint of Guiness once. Apparently he only needs £20,000 a year as his wife as a £300,000 a year cleaning job.

e-mail the RFL, e-mail your clubs - this must be blocked.

Thank you