I'd take Casty on 1 year deal

poss a fair fight

Come off it. The standard in SL is lower than its ever been. Think once we get a new stand off, we'll be as good as anyone. We gave Wigan a good beating in CC semi. Don't forget that....

If we'd played like that every week we'd have been in the grand final.Wigan and saints are significantly better than us unfortunately.Every team is capable of raising their game for a one off match but if we want to be the best again we probably need 2/3 players.

Yep - we need 2 props, a stand off and a winger to be anywhere near Saints and Wigan.
If we can get the 2 props for this season, we might go OK.
Then sort out the backs for 2022.
I'm hoping Long can have an effect on Lui for this season.

Agree that we are not far off, but still not quite within touching distance (over the course of a season) of Wigan and Saints. Key for me is the development of Walker, Newman, Holroyd and Walters. If they hit their potential recruitment need not be extensive. Also need some ruthlessness in terms of trimming our existing squad. Both decentish players but we'll not be top dogs with Sutcliffe and Briscoe in the starting thirteen.

So you’re telling us that our pack is as good as anyone’s? Hmmm I appreciate your positivity but I hugely disagree. I agreed with a post that said we need a prop and a stand-off (good ones at that) and I stand by that.

full strength ok but any injuries and as subless as cats play off

Hmm that was the best we played all season and probably one of Wigan's worst. Had we played like that all season we would have been contenders.

Given the nature/age of our current pack I'm not sure I get this 'need two props' arguement.i appreciate that lots of people seem to think there is a magic number that we must hit, but if we bought two 'quality props' then who misses out on match day? During last pre season I would have been up for our younger lads getting 15 games at fev but now surely holroyd and mic are in the match day squad pretty much every week.

For me it’s part about competition for places, and part about covering for the inevitable front row injuries.

We should have 6 props.

6 would be great but 5 I think will be enough. Unfortunately we may have to run with the 4 untill hopefully another can be signed. I doubt we will sign 2 as I've said before I expect Prior to do big minutes starting at 13 then moving to front row.