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Quote: Rogues Gallery "And when I look at this thread it makes you realise that like all other teams Leeds will always be in Wigans slipstream.'"



Would that be the slipstream left by the hundreds of fans doing the ‘Wigan Walk’on 73 minutes?

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Quote: LS16_Rhino "Would that be the slipstream left by the hundreds of fans doing the ‘Wigan Walk’on 73 minutes?'"


icon_eek.gif You mean they stay 13 minutes longer nowadays ?

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Back on topic.
Your best Leeds born 13 MIGHT just about compete with the 3rd team I posted, but wouldn't get within 20 points of the 2nd or 40 of the 1st.

Check your history, Rugby League didn't begin in 2005.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Back on topic.
Your best Leeds born 13 MIGHT just about compete with the 3rd team I posted, but wouldn't get within 20 points of the 2nd or 40 of the 1st.

Check your history, Rugby League didn't begin in 2005.'"

Given that every team you posted is a mix of players from different era's it's just YOUR opinion and not FACT!!
We know Wigan USED to be good we hear it often enough from you pie fans who have nothing else to cling onto. eusa_angel.gif

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Back on topic.
Your best Leeds born 13 MIGHT just about compete with the 3rd team I posted, but wouldn't get within 20 points of the 2nd or 40 of the 1st.

Check your history, Rugby League didn't begin in 2005.'"


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Quote: rhinoms "Given that every team you posted is a mix of players from different era's it's just YOUR opinion and not FACT!!
We know Wigan USED to be good we hear it often enough from you pie fans who have nothing else to cling onto.
Every player is Wigan born, which is what this thread is about.

Now can you name three Leeds teams with Leeds born players to match those Wigan ones. It was difficult enough for you on first pages of the thread trying to name one decent one without having to give places to "ringers"

As I said 39 players, 37 Internationals, 7 International captains, and I've left Internationals out.

Even in your super Leeds team now how many Leeds born lads are there?

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Every player is Wigan born, which is what this thread is about.

Now can you name three Leeds teams with Leeds born players to match those Wigan ones. It was difficult enough for you on first pages of the thread trying to name one decent one without having to give places to "ringers"

As I said 39 players, 37 Internationals, 7 International captains, and I've left Internationals out.

Even in your super Leeds team now how many Leeds born lads are there?'"


Who cares? We’re current Champions and you’re not… and the thread is called LEEDS Born, what makes you think anyone on here gives a flying fook about a Wigan born 13?

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Quote: LS16_Rhino "Who cares? We’re current Champions and you’re not… and the thread is called LEEDS Born, what makes you think anyone on here gives a flying fook about a Wigan born 13?'"


Aww diddums.
Little Leeds boy spits his dummy out again.

Look back through the posts and now you know why your always in our slipstream.

"And if you know your history, it's enough to make your heart go woooooa"

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Aww diddums.
Little Leeds boy spits his dummy out again.

Look back through the posts and now you know why your always in our slipstream.

"And if you know your history, it's enough to make your heart go woooooa"'"


Now, my over compensatory friend, you have got yourself all confused as to where and when you are.

You are on the LEEDS board post on a thread titled LEEDS Born in the year of our Lord 2009.

So I’ll ask again (for the hard of reading)

What makes you think that any Leeds fan is bothered about a Wigan born team of your choosing?

Do try and answer this time old chap.

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Quote: LS16_Rhino "Now, my over compensatory friend, you have got yourself all confused as to where and when you are.

You are on the LEEDS board post on a thread titled LEEDS Born in the year of our Lord 2009.

So I’ll ask again (for the hard of reading)

What makes you think that any Leeds fan is bothered about a Wigan born team of your choosing?

Do try and answer this time old chap.'"



Well as you know, I do post on here occasionally to educate. I've generally over the years had a great rapport with Leeds Rugby League supporters.

But it appears the standards are slipping at your club, in that many of your "supporters" don't appear to know who was born where.

I was merely "educating" them as to what a "real" team of home grown players should look like.

And with that I would like to wish you and all your family a very Happy Christmas and prosperous New Year.

I shall be in the Leeds supporters club in July when I'm sure you would love to buy me a beer. icon_smile.gif

Cheers.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Now can you name three Leeds teams with Leeds born players to match those Wigan ones. It was difficult enough for you on first pages of the thread trying to name one decent one without having to give places to "ringers" '"

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I have to say I admire your knowledge on Wigan rugby league. So thank you for joining the debate and making it a meaningful one. The reason why I struggled is because I hardily know anything about the past players of Leeds. But hopefully someone (a Leeds fan) will come along with a serious debate to contest your claims without dictating that the thread is a one angled one.

Surely you have to agree that some individual players are better than some of the all time Wigan born greats on the list including Robinson and Hanley.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Well as you know, I do post on here occasionally to educate. I've generally over the years had a great rapport with Leeds Rugby League supporters.

But it appears the standards are slipping at your club, in that many of your "supporters" don't appear to know who was born where.

I was merely "educating" them as to what a "real" team of home grown players should look like.

And with that I would like to wish you and all your family a very Happy Christmas and prosperous New Year.

I shall be in the Leeds supporters club in July when I'm sure you would love to buy me a beer.
I will gladly buy you a beer in the summer my friend (as long as you promise – no bog brushes) although I don’t drink myself icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Damo-Leeds "eusa_clap.gif

Leeds have had some great players. I loved watching John Holmes, Les Dyl, Phil Cookson etc (I'm not sure if they were Leeds born)

Paul Medley scored one of the best tries I ever saw at Central Park. As I said I'm not sure where a lot of these players were born.

Ellery would just get into my all time Wigan seventeen. Jason was great player but wouldn't make it as we've had many better wingers but not necessarily Wigan born. He would however get in my Wigan produced (through the academy system team)

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Leeds have had some great players. I loved watching John Holmes, Les Dyl, Phil Cookson etc (I'm not sure if they were Leeds born)

Paul Medley scored one of the best tries I ever saw at Central Park. As I said I'm not sure where a lot of these players were born.

Ellery would just get into my all time Wigan seventeen. Jason was great player but wouldn't make it as we've had many better wingers but not necessarily Wigan born. He would however get in my Wigan produced (through the academy system team)'"

Nice to see that you’ve shown some respect to some of the Leeds players. For a moment I though it was going to slip into another my dads better than your dad debate too early.

I’d have to say the Wigan born players that I’ve mainly admired over the last two decades are Sean Long and Kris Radlinski. Thankfully one of them is still playing if not as good.

However to say that Ellery would just get into your all time Wigan team is a bit crazy and deluded because he’s arguably (and from Leeds) the best British born player to play the game. Unless you had some of the all time greats from Australia or New Zealand (of which I highly doubt it) playing stand-off or loose forward then you have a point.

Robinson yeah your probably right.

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Quote: Damo-Leeds "Nice to see that you’ve shown some respect to some of the Leeds players. For a moment I though it was going to slip into another my dads better than your dad debate too early.

I’d have to say the Wigan born players that I’ve mainly admired over the last two decades are Sean Long and Kris Radlinski. Thankfully one of them is still playing if not as good.

However to say that Ellery would just get into your all time Wigan team is a bit crazy and deluded because he’s arguably (and from Leeds) the best British born player to play the game. Unless you had some of the all time greats from Australia or New Zealand (of which I highly doubt it) playing stand-off or loose forward then you have a point.

Robinson yeah your probably right.'"


Hanley would be behind Brett Kenny, David Bolton and probably Ces Mountford as stand offs.
Shaun Edwards would be my scum half.

I wouldn't agree that Hanley was the best ever British player. That accolade would fall to either Alex Murphy or Billy Boston.

Hanley was a great player and one of if not the best of his generation. However his lack of a passing and kicking game keeps him out of my half backs, so he would have to be at loose forward.

The reason I said Wigan 17 is that in many ways Hanley would be the ideal sub, as he could cover three or four positions, but in reality I would have him at 13 and move Farrell into the second row or sub.

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