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Quote: batleyrhino "If any team is looking capable of scoring with 6 tackles inside the opposition 20 it's a tough call to go for the 2. Leeds attack is so predictable and pedestrian that we should be going for the 2 every time at the moment.'"


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Joking apart, you make a good point and grinding out wins built on a solid defence in low scoring games does appear to be our best chance of winning games right now.

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Quote: leeds owl "My four props from what is available short term would be, Garbutt, cuthbertson, Singleton and Ormondroyd. I liked the way Ormondroyd attacked with real pace and intent when he ran with the ball last night. It was only a little cameo (as it will only ever be while McDermott is coach), but I would give him another chance against Salford based on that. Garbutt seems to divide opinion, but he would be the player I would want carrying the ball out from our try line when we are under the pump. We really do struggle to make metres from our pack, and he is the only one that doesn't get smashed back when the game is at the highest tempo. Cuthbo did well last night, and I think he needs to be used more as a prop due to our deficiencies in that area. Singleton gets a place for me because we have such little quality there, but despite his wholehearted efforts I still don't think he's a prop.'"


I'd be happy with that. If the 4th prop there's no reason it shouldn't be Ormandroyd or Baldwinson imo as both still have development in them. Also really liked the way Ormandroyd carried the ball in.

Have to disagree on Singo. I think he's started the season really well.

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Quote: rollin thunder "Going backwards at an alarming rate. Everybody said we needed a half back and we did not recruit one, McDermott is just taking us backwards. Just don't know how we can just sit back and do nothing.'"

Judging by his performance in a team full of strangers in Championship Round 1, your best half back is currently on loan at Bradford for a month.

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Quote: batleyrhino "If any team is looking capable of scoring with 6 tackles inside the opposition 20 it's a tough call to go for the 2. Leeds attack is so predictable and pedestrian that we should be going for the 2 every time at the moment.'"


I wouldn't disagree although with the amount of defending we seem to be doing, compounded by the difficulty we have making metres, giving the opposition a kick off deep into our half immediately puts us back under the cosh. Particularly when we squander possession like we did during last night's second half.

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I thought we won. Definitely said we won on Breakfast this morning.

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With regards the argument about taking the two, even if you say Leeds don't score if they go for a try, Leigh would still be starting the next set 98m away from the Leeds line......we took the kick and instead we have to come away from our own line after the kickoff and we didn't get that far away from it on that following set so the game takes on a complete different pattern with regards field position and there's no guarantee that Leigh grab that 3rd try to make it a one score game.

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I take Gotcha's point that not taking the 2 would have left us vulnerable to losing the game by conceding a penalty.

Still a bit negative though. Against 12 men against a recently promoted team they should have backed themselves to get over for a try or get a repeat set (not that they seem to be interested in the latter these days...). I was a bit disconcerted that McGuire seemed to argue with John Wells at the touchscreen that dying in possession on the 6th was a good outcome vs the risk of gifting them a 7 tackle restart. That said, maybe we need to be safety-first until we've a few more wins under our belt.

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I personally wouldn't have gone for it. Whilst we still have our struggles near the line we also did actually score two tries last night from close and they were a man down.

Also the field position afterwards if we didn't score would've been a big thing they way the 2nd was going. They got close to our line because they were starting sets near halfway, didn't fancy them to get past us if they had to go 90m.

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Quote: Gotcha "Also, Stevie Ward not MOM? Stevie Ward not a good game? What the hell again are they watching.

50 tackles, no misses. People cream their pants when JJB gets close to that and misses half a dozen tackles, but a player returning from injury puts his body on line none stop and it's questioned. The guy was phenomenal defensively, making up for others around him.'"


If the stats are saying he had zero missed it's wrong, I watched the final 20 mins earlier today and he missed two in that alone. Shot ahead of his outside defenders a couple of times and why Leigh got joy down their left in the final period and he didn't offer much with ball in attack. One of our few chances near their line in the 2nd half he chucked one into Watkins from a yard away when Golding was the right option out the back.

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i'd have run that penalty. against 12 men, who were shattered, how low is our confidence and self belief to take the 2?

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Regardless of Ward's motm credentials, he's an excellent player. I want him match fit and I want him in the side.

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That two points prevented Leigh from kicking a penalty to win the match or slotting a drop goal to equalise. It meant they had to score a try to win. When it was a shot for two directly in front of the posts and when our attack is $hite, it was clearly the correct decision. We must take any easy shots at goal whilst McNumb remains in charge as our attack will not improve whilst he is at the helm.

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Quote: Exeter Rhino "I take Gotcha's point that not taking the 2 would have left us vulnerable to losing the game by conceding a penalty.

Still a bit negative though. Against 12 men against a recently promoted team they should have backed themselves to get over for a try or get a repeat set (not that they seem to be interested in the latter these days...). I was a bit disconcerted that McGuire seemed to argue with John Wells at the touchscreen that dying in possession on the 6th was a good outcome vs the risk of gifting them a 7 tackle restart. That said, maybe we need to be safety-first until we've a few more wins under our belt.'"


I don't disagree at all on the negative point. And I certainly don't disagree on your second point of negativity.

But regardless of negative, it proved the right decision made and ultimately won us the match, so nobody should be moaning about it. We have lost so many matches over last twelve months by not taking that option, and last night proved differently.

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before anyone thinks i have changed my mind the correct was regarding the Stevie Ward post

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