Good pov Magic and from what I have seen and also a bit of side knowledge I believe Edgell is the real deal and should be promoted as often as possible, Miller is still in the same bracket as regards proven ability and question marks re fitness.

I know it's only week 2 and I desperately don't want to sound negative but....
The difference between the 2 teams was obvious tonight.
They are a well coached team, with a game plan.
We aren't. We're a really dumb team.
We rely on worldie tries to keep us in games.
Poor kicking, static attack, daft errors when we're on the back foot.
It's all too familiar.
Why on earth is Ruan only coming on after 73 mins??
Smith has 10-12 games to save his job.
Looking at the next 5 games, I think we lose 4 of them.

Nail on the head about Bentley. He competes as hard as any player I've ever seen. It's just that so much of that effort is wasted. Made an unbelievable take off his knees from Croft's low pass but just couldn't reign in the instinct to throw a complete speculator in the next second. That was the game for me. I don't know how you temper that or if you should even try. Frustrating player.

The increase in sin bin offences.. the stupid VAR in football... its like no one wants any momentum In sport anymore... (although football is a business not a sport now)

Did we play better than against Salford? Sounded a pretty similar standard on the radio. Very patchy.

Let’s not go there yet. See where we are after 10 -12 games.

Miller was ill nothing to do with fitness

Leeds have some good players and a better coach would get more out of them. Surely Rohan has had enough time now at the club to at least be showing some signs of serious progress? I’m far from a Leeds fan but it frustrates me watching Leeds thinking it’s Tony Smith coaching us at Rovers again.. Must be in the Smith genes that their teams just don’t seem to be up for a bit of ‘honest’ play.

Some people on here can’t wait to ‘go there’.

Will happen every time we lose

WE ARE A REALLY DUMB TEAM

Let's put it down to new team , KR did seem to get the breaks too

It wasn’t the new team that cost us it was just lack of discipline Nd a terrible pitch.

Personally saw enough signs that we’ll be ok.

Thought we looked good when Goudemand was on. Lisone tried too hard. First half we were the best team and had some composure. The two sin bins ment when they upped the tempo we went back into 2023 mode. Need miller back. Not sure Holryod and Oledski would have made any difference tonight.

Predictable score line, predictable performance

We really are a dumb team that are easy to play against

Only saw 2nd half so can't comment on 1st. On a positive the Handley try was a beauty. A few of the youngsters will benefit from game time. Hkr seemed to have the better game plan and wanted it more. Some of the yardage carries from us were terrible whereas they constantly made easy meters. Until that stops we'll loose more than we win.

Lack of discipline and no punch in the forwards - a familiar story. Donno tackle brainless - very lucky
not a red .
As we all knew from last year , we needed at least one prop , so now we suffer . And the waste of an overseas spot for a winger made of glass , who has been injury prone for 4 consecutive years just adds insult to injury.