Walters reminds me a lot of how Chris Clarkson looked when he first came into the team.

Hits above his weight defensively, runs some very clever lines both in support and off the ball.

Hopefully he won't regress in the way Clarkson seems to have done. I wouldn't be surprised to see him elsewhere in 2015.

Walters seems more like JJB to me, he has a great engine and is really aggressive on both sides of the ball. To me Clarkson simply isn't agressive enough, he's been a little better in the games he's played this year but he's nothing more than an average back rower at present andd I doubt he'll get another contract with Leeds if Minchella, England, Foster, and Walters develop as we hope.

Will be interesting to see how the loan system goes when the structure changes next year. The top 8 no relegation period we didn't really see many leave Leeds and get a decent loan period in apart from BJB at Quins. We've sent quite a few out this year but to clubs with obvious problems and relegation returned.

I made the same point.

The way he has contributed off the bench etc.

Clarkson does looks redundant for Leeds at present. His development hasn't happened.

I blame the tash He could only make it worse with other facial hair.

To me Clarkson was always going to be what he is, I've never really bought into the hype, he's a solid SL level back row. A poor mans Dallas Johnson, and a better version of Simon Worrall. The "he runs good lines" line has always been a lttle bit overstated, he may hit a good line once in every 5 or 6 matches (at best) but the rest of the time he just trundells the ball up very ineffectivly in a (dear I say) Ian Kirke esque manner.

Props - Singleton, Bailey, Leuluai, Kirke, Peacock, Baldwinson, Yates, Cuthbertson

Second Row - Ablett, Achurch, Jones-Buchanan, Clarkson, Walters, Tonks, Ward, Mulhern, Minchella, Foster, Delaney.

Someone has to be leaving from that list, surely?

Kirke for me should be the first to depart ,Bailey hasn't offered much over the last 18 months ,is KL going round again? if so not sure that's a good call.
Singleton still pretty raw ,Baldwinson very much a raw youngster with potential.
Yates is still to play so not sure what impact he will have + or -.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Jjb retire he is picking up a lot of heavy injuries ,I think Foster ,Minchella and Walters will ALL be ahead of Clarkson.
Wouldn't be sad to see a bit of a cull tbh and at least 1 more Prop brought in also depending on who we retain for the Acadamy we could see a few out on dual reg/loan.

One of these days, I'll see Singleton pass a ball or break a tackle.

Just hopeful it's soon.

Works hard, but that's about it at the moment.

true but given his age there is time yet. no excuse for bailey or kirke in that respect. they have been awful all season, and last come to that.

Works Hard is a big improvement on some of our more senior forwards.

Who'd want a hard working forward eh?

What worries me more about our young forwards is when you look across the Pennines.

Sorry but at under 16's on joining professionally these players are every bit as good as those across the Pennines. Yet Wigan seem to introduce young forwards like they have being playing for years. For us the excuse is they have years to learn.

Singleton was way ahead of his counterparts in his age group three years ago. He is not the match for a few of them now.

Player announcement tomorrow, I hazard a guess it being Leuluai staying on.

Confirmed on the rhinos website.Pleased about that.

So we lose Kylie & JP at the same time with only Cuthbertson signed from outside the Club!
Kirke can leave as well imo that would leave us short of quality in the front row even IF we move Delaney up I'm sure GH has a plan but not sure I like the idea of losing both of our best props at once.