I go a bit steady with the "young" Leeds team folks. I know what you mean but the average age of the starting backs and half backs last night is 30:

Richie Myler 32
David Fusitu'a 28
Nene MacDonald 28
Ash Handley 27
Derrell Olpherts 31
Blake Austin 32
Aidan Sezer 31

why is anyone defending hurrells red card? shoulder charge making contact with the head. Red card every single time

they must be drinking the Jon Wilkin koolaid
the fact Konnie threw a massive tantrum about it as well, like he'd done nothing wrong - pathetic

Just wanted to congratulate the new world champs. Well done Leeds.

I don't know what Peter Smith is watching sometimes with some of his scores.

Matt Shaw's are usually worse.

Yep. Saints have built their unprecedented success by playing an extremely aggressive style of Rugby, often to the very edge of the law. Most times they stay within it, last night they didn't and were rightly punished. The game doesn't need creative players being clobbered off the ball, regardless of which team is doing it. Smith's strategy of going round rather than through, probably contributed to those late tackles. Credit to him.

Its almost as if it’s two different incidents and not comparable, I admitted i was wrong on the Welsby incident after rewatching it.

There is only one club rattled, look at the pathetic actions of your players and fans after the game.

I was more surprised by the players reaction than the fans. It was only a reg season game, not sure why someone like Percival was making a scene after the game.
Fans reaction was really poor too but small minority? You’ll obs no more as were at the game…..

It was a small minority as it usually is with these things, but there were some very very angry Fans outside the ground, first time I’ve felt like it could ‘kick off’ for a long time.

You are right though the players were pathetic, look at Hurrell throwing his toys out and Percival having to get a talking to from Walmsley.

Hurrell's was a red card. Not as bad as Tet's hit on him last year but it was late and a shoulder charge to the chin. Myler's lucky not to have got badly hurt, and Wilkin's comments were disgraceful.

Walters was a penalty for me. But little flare-ups were happening all game and the ref had warned both captains about players not running in.

Certainly be interesting at the disciplinary this week. Last year Macdonald would have got a ban for the attempt to stop a try as well.

Walters incident is a grey area if its slowed down does look like he's trying to wrap arm but can't fully due to Cameron Smith making Simultaneous contact on Matty Lees. But for me if 'shoulder charges' are used like that I'm fine with it shoulder on shoulder equals some big hits and are not dangerous for players safety imo


Hurrell shoulder charge is a red card all day & all season long. He's made direct contact too Myler's head with shoulder which IS dangerous for player safety. It's not rocket science imo.