Unless Toronto come calling i can't see Ormandroyd or Walters leaving.
Mullalley will want to stay in the area now that he has his own business in North Lane.

I still believe that Ormondroyd may end up at York. They are still recruiting for 2019 and looking at loan deals, including loan deals for the England academy youngsters.

Won't free up much cap though. I guess the prospect of signing another quality player depends upon how underspent we are. I reckon not by much, in which case getting rid of the likes of Ormondroyd and Walters in isolation won't bring in enough to set any wheels in motion. Of those on the alleged list, our best chance was to move on Ash Golding though personally I'm happy enough for him to stay.

I'd gladly let Golding go if it meant bringing in a top prop

I would prefer it if we let Sutcliffe go ahead of Golding

We all would

If you was Ash Golding with 3.5 years left on your deal would you leave Leeds to go to a club like Fev, Bulls or York on a part time basis? Which are realistically the club's he would end up at.

That's the issue Leeds currently have, we gave deals that was too long to some players.

Golding could end up being of some use to us this year, particularly as a good defensive winger who would finish the odd try off. He's probably a safer option to Luke Briscoe but neither are standard Leeds should be looking for really.

I can see Handley been starting winger but Ash could back up that position.

Golding’s way too small for the wing isn’t he though?

I don’t have a problem with Leeds giving Golding the contract they did. This was before Walker had made himself known.

We cant expect loyalty and commitment from the players if the club never shows any.

We had Golding playing in middle of the park as s 9 last year and he defended well there so I'm sure he could cope as a winger. He's no small than Tom Briscoe in height.

He defended well on Boxing Day there. As a back up I've no issue.

Golding is everyone's favourite scapegoat, the abuse he gets on social media is quite frankly vile. Ever since Walker appeared some people have been trying to drive him out and wanting rid, he never gets praise when he plays well, but even a slight mistake and they want him hung drawn and quartered. There are plenty of players who should be/deserve to be shipped on before Golding.

If Leeds want to be back up there with Wigan, Stains and Wire every position needs to have a contender and a back up. The top clubs don’t have journeymen they prefer youngsters with potential. Ash lost his mojo and opportunity when hardaker got booted out.
I see him regularly hand in hand with his missus up whiterose but there is no fire in his eyes.
Look at Jack W he looks like he could rip your arm off and eat it raw whilst laughing in your face. That spark, that desire, that passion needs to be present for players to be better than average.
Best example for me was Sinny as a player. Super bloke off the field, articulate, honest and true. On the field he put the fear of God up other players and he only really lost it that once in his last season against Cas with the weirdly contrived headbutt.
I just hope Furner can create that passion in the team.

Walker was within the youth system well before Golding was given his 5 year deal. He was given that deal for two main reasons:
1. It keeps their wages down - long deal lower salary
2. If it doesn't work out someone will have to pay a fee

Think I must be watching a different game to you.
Why would Golding have fire in his eyes whilst walking hand in hand with his girlfriend? The Golding I see has plenty of determination on the pitch where it needs to be.
Again not sure players from the opposition look at Walker thinking he is going to rip their arm off as good as he is he certainly doesn't have much venom in him or aggression for that matter.
Equally whist Sinfield was an excellent player I'm not sure he put the fear of god into players. If I recall many thought he deserved to be dropped towards the latter part of his career before coming good again when it mattered.
As for the contreived headbut yes it was soft but he connected with the head and sending off was correct.
I will give you Sinfield was a nice bloke off the park and probably didn't have fire in his eyes when out shopping with his partner just like Golding.

Yup we are watching a different game.

How is it at Odsall now?

If that's the case he should try standing in the queue for f@#*ing Build a Bear in the week before Christmas.