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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Quote: William Eve "It won't happen but I'd love it if he were to sign for Wigan.

On so many levels I'd love it.'"


Oh it'd be awesome wouldn't it? You could make him your profile pic and everything!!

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Quote: loiner81 "Do you have any links to back that up? William's posted 13 quotes. Can you post quotes from those same 13 people, sticking the knife in?'"

FlexWheeler - rl[iTime to sever ties.[/irl

Old Feller - rl[iI feel really let down by Hardaker, I named our first Westie Zak in his honour since he'd become a favourite of mine. Thankfully our dog is infinitely better behaved & more mature than his namesake.[/irl

G1 - rl[iSutcliffe to right centre, Watkins to full back, Hardaker to anywhere else but Leeds[/irl

craigizzard - rl[iHicksville Party Town! He'll love it.[/irl

Fat Boy - rl[iDoes it really matter why he's leaving? The fact is he's leaving.[/irl

The Printer - rl[iThe high matience of the guy wore thin a while ago. Be interesting to see how long he goes in Aus before the first 'incident' that his club has to fire fight and when and which SL club he returns to when it doesn't work out over there for him.[/irl

Him - rl[iI've often defended Hardaker as I think what he's done has, at times, been overblown by some people. But, unfortunately, it doesn't appear as if he's become any more professional, which was a must given where we were with him. It's a shame as he's a very, very good player still with room for improvement, but time to move on I think. And as Sal rightly points out, do it now while we can get some money for him rather than having to sack him at some point in the future.[/irl

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Quote: William Eve "FlexWheeler - rl[iTime to sever ties.[/irl

Old Feller - rl[iI feel really let down by Hardaker, I named our first Westie Zak in his honour since he'd become a favourite of mine. Thankfully our dog is infinitely better behaved & more mature than his namesake.[/irl

G1 - rl[iSutcliffe to right centre, Watkins to full back, Hardaker to anywhere else but Leeds[/irl

craigizzard - rl[iHicksville Party Town! He'll love it.[/irl

Fat Boy - rl[iDoes it really matter why he's leaving? The fact is he's leaving.[/irl

The Printer - rl[iThe high matience of the guy wore thin a while ago. Be interesting to see how long he goes in Aus before the first 'incident' that his club has to fire fight and when and which SL club he returns to when it doesn't work out over there for him.[/irl

Him - rl[iI've often defended Hardaker as I think what he's done has, at times, been overblown by some people. But, unfortunately, it doesn't appear as if he's become any more professional, which was a must given where we were with him. It's a shame as he's a very, very good player still with room for improvement, but time to move on I think. And as Sal rightly points out, do it now while we can get some money for him rather than having to sack him at some point in the future.[/irl'"


1stAre you being serious?[/i

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Quote: Sal Paradise "There was plenty of support on here for Hardakers homophobic abuse of Child now those same defenders are now on his case for his poor behaviour!!'"


People didn't "support" his homophobic abuse, rereading the thread instead of selected snippets from William it was a case of posters being a bit more realistic about the incident compared to others who were acting OTT as if he went on a murdering spree killing dozens and dozens of gay people.

And people aren't on his case now for poor behaviour. They're just fed up with REPEATED poor behaviour (been a few more 'incidents' since that homophobic issue btw). If you had an employee at work and they mess up once, maybe twice but promised to grow up and you stick with them, you'd rightly lose patience and sympathy when they reoffended again and again.

And considering you went out of your way to highlight anytime Hardaker missed a tackle in defence when he was here, you're quite guilty of flip flopping yourself when the other week upon his expected departure you were so full of praise for his defence and that it was such massive lost that couldn't be negated by having a better attacking FB play instead.

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Only you mentioned sticking the knife in BetWelcher.

Nobody else did.

All Sal and I opined was that Leeds fans were defending Hardaker over his homophobic comments and backed him but as soon as the club decide they wanted rid, suddenly the fans want rid too. Baa-aaa-aaa
Your desperate capitulation is duly noted BTW.

And if you'd taken time to actually read the original quotes correctly, you'd have noticed that Smokey TA wasn't defending Hardaker's homophobic outburst - quite the opposite in fact, you dope! icon_cool.gif

Now feel free to contact the following to see if they are still defending Hardaker and want him to stay at Leeds.

Lord God Jose Mourinho
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The only one you'll have any luck with is erm... Gotcha icon_lol.gif

As you were, yer welcher.

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Quote: ThePrinter "People didn't "support" his homophobic abuse, rereading the thread instead of selected snippets from William it was a case of posters being a bit more realistic about the incident compared to others who were acting OTT as if he went on a murdering spree killing dozens and dozens of gay people.

And people aren't on his case now for poor behaviour. They're just fed up with REPEATED poor behaviour (been a few more 'incidents' since that homophobic issue btw). If you had an employee at work and they mess up once, maybe twice but promised to grow up and you stick with them, you'd rightly lose patience and sympathy when they reoffended again and again.'"

Pssst!

Hardaker had already offended several times at that point in time.

He'd already been cited as a serial miscreant.

And when it was alleged he'd mouthed off again with another homophobic comment in a fixture not that long after, fans on this forum were defending him again because GH and the club were still defending him. How dare the RFL? OUTRAGE BY PLENTY!

[iBaa-aaa-aaa.[/i

But now GH, McDermott and the club have had a gutful of him and want rid.

And so do the fans.

[iBaa-aaa-aaa.[/i

Don't ever develop any opinions of your own, whatever you do.

[iBaa-aaa-aaa.[/i

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Quote: William Eve "Pssst!

Hardaker had already offended several times at that point in time.'"


Really? Name the several previous incidents before that homophobic slur incident.

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Quote: William Eve "It won't happen but I'd love it if he were to sign for Wigan.

On so many levels I'd love it.'"


Me too. Wigan would then finally have a truly world class fullback.

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How to derail a thread:

Step 1- make a stupid comment that either makes no sense or insults half the posters on the board

Step 2- try back this point up with 'evidence' that doesn't prove the point, and is often tangental to the point you make in the first place

Step 3- if all else fails, revert to basic trolling.

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I'll get it back on track....is he ing off? When? And where to?

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I don't normally involve myself in the pointless debates on here but I've yet to read anything that points to me either condoning Hardaker or putting the knife in.
Unless stating my disappointment at his continuing bad behaviour can be construed as putting the knife in, or describing him as immature.
Eve is the Donald Trump of this site.

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Quote: William Eve "Only you mentioned sticking the knife in BetWelcher.

Nobody else did. '"


Apart from Sal of course, before you stepped in to defend his honour....

Quote: William Eve "Does it matter who the abuse was aimed at? Defending behaviour of that nature just because he plays for Leeds was well out of order as I posted on the thread. Those same people are now sticking the knife in - rlfans!!'"



Also, if you want to keep calling me "bet welcher" does that mean I can call you "paedo" or "wife beater" William?
Obviously you're (probably not) but if you can throw lies around then surely I can too, can't I?
Not that I would of course, we're not all as sad as you.

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Quote: ThePrinter "Really? Name the several previous incidents before that homophobic slur incident.'"


I'd like to hear about these multiple incidents too.

William?

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Quote: loiner81 "What are you on about now Sal? I never disputed that people were defending him, lots were. I remember it well, it wasn't that long ago.

But you said...

Do you have any links to back that up? William's posted 13 quotes. Can you post quotes from those same 13 people, sticking the knife in?'"


Sal? Hello?

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Quote: loiner81 "Pardon?

Also, if you want to keep calling me "bet welcher" does that mean I can call you "paedo" or "wife beater" ?
Obviously (hopefully) neither are true but if you can throw lies around then surely I can too, can't I?'"

You can call me what you like - it is for others to judge the validity of your accusations.

since the original thread I don't recall suggesting you were a bet-welcher. I made my point at the time and nothing in the intervening period has changed my opinion.

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