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Damned statistics eh?
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Quite - the Leeds forward who according to Opta made the most metres on Saturday with the best average per carry was Mitch Achurch.
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| Quote: tvoc "Quite - the Leeds forward who according to Opta made the most metres on Saturday with the best average per carry was Mitch Achurch.'"
Yes and they can be one match anomalies which is why I showed a period of time. Not like you to not like some stats......can't be because they don't help your argument could it now  |
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| Quote: tvoc "Quite - the Leeds forward who according to Opta made the most metres on Saturday with the best average per carry was Mitch Achurch.'"
How many of those metres were made when he was filling in on the wing though? Tbf, he looked ok out there. Maybe he's found his position. |
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| Quote: craigizzard "How many of those metres were made when he was filling in on the wing though? Tbf, he looked ok out there. Maybe he's found his position.'"
Corey oats switched from second row to wing and hell be playing for QLD next week |
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| Quote: leedsnsouths "Corey oats switched from second row to wing and hell be playing for QLD next week'"
He also became a Quaker around the same time. |
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| Quote: ThePrinter "Yes and they can be one match anomalies which is why I showed a period of time. Not like you to not like some stats......can't be because they don't help your argument could it now ![]()
I'm happy to highlight why when talking about player performances I form opinions based on what I see rather than what some 3rd party tells me. In addition to his metres and his average per carry Achurch according to Opta also made 34 tackles, 4 tackle busts and 2 clean breaks on Saturday - yet you'll be hard pressed to find any sorrow on here that he'll be history after this season.
Yes Craig I understand where some of those Achurch metres were made just as I am aware when Garbutt made many cheap metres at salford this season (on a rare occasion when Leeds attempted to build some pressure) through goal-line drop-out kick returns just as Peacock often did in years gone by. Unfortunately those all still end up in the totals just as the hard graft ones up the middle do, just as Golding racked up 17 tackles recently by placing hands on as 3rd man in practically complete tackles yet they show the same value as a Hardaker one and one miracle try saver over the line - not that theres been many of them this year but you take the point.
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| Quote: tvoc "but you take the point.'"
You don't like stats that don't help your view???
And I formed my opinion that Singleton was playing poorly by watching his performances, the stats happen to back that up convincingly. That you of all people don't like using them on certain occasions is amusing. |
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I prefer the "eye test" with players than statistics. Or, in the case of Achurch, the smell test because what he's producing smells like shi....
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If people are using the 'eye test' on Singleton and not seeing how poor he's been then they might want to make a trip to their opticians.
He'd be getting slated if he was a new signing and not from the academy.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "If people are using the 'eye test' on Singleton and not seeing how poor he's been then they might want to make a trip to their opticians.
He'd be getting slated if he was a new signing and not from the academy.'"
I rarely get time on here these days.
I won't be wasting it entering discourse with you, after this post.
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| Quote: G1 "I rarely get time on here these days.
I won't be wasting it entering discourse with you, after this post.
HTH.'"
Yep your posts are spent valuably just pointing out the bleeding obvious that Achurch is sh*t. |
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And yet Achurch's Opta stats from Saturday were arguably as good or better than any other Leeds forward. If that's a reasonable conclusion to draw then the case for their exclusion from debate is made.
I pay little attention to Opta's stats as evidence of anything and use them even less - only one poster consistently puts any store in them and he's an even bigger bore than either of us.
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| Quote: tvoc "And yet Achurch's Opta stats from Saturday were arguably as good or better than any other Leeds forward. If that's a reasonable conclusion to draw then the case for their exclusion from debate is made.'"
As pointed out, quite a difference between someone's performances over a period of games than one game in isolation.
Quote: tvoc "I pay little attention to Opta's stats as evidence of anything'"
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Achurch has had many good moments in a Leeds shirt. The problem is that they are few and far between, and padded out with softcockery
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