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Quote: rhinoms "How recent were Red Bulls own words??
Also it's not an "idea" how big LUFC is it's fact check the History you're harping on about.
Like i said LUFC in the Championship or pushing for the Prem is much bigger than the Austrians and Yanks etc etc.
Revenue wise if they "re-named" LUFC it would take much more £££ for less return you don't need to be Alan Sugar to see that the fanbase would walk away in their droves.
However for less investment and sticking to Stadium naming rights ,Shirts sponsors etc etc their return should be much higher and eventually they'd be partners with a Prem Club which is the biggest League in the world.
Partnerships don't always mean "just sponsorship".
I'm fully aware of GFH's background but they know they'd earn more in the Prem and like everything the product has to have potential to earn and re-naming LUFC doesn't it'd die on it's @$$ before it got going.'"


Its how they work.

Looking at the comments online i think many would actually be happy to become redbull leeds sadly, it just sums up modern football.

Again you assume that its just stadium and sponsorship they want, they dont do conventional sponsorship.

If you are fully aware of GFH's background you will know they are out for a quick buck, as for being in the premiership we arent there yet and show no sign of getting there this season, how long will GFH hang around? what if they decide to take the money and run. There are no gurantees in football.

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Quote: rhinos21 "Its how they work.

Looking at the comments online i think many would actually be happy to become redbull leeds sadly, it just sums up modern football.

Again you assume that its just stadium and sponsorship they want, they dont do conventional sponsorship.

If you are fully aware of GFH's background you will know they are out for a quick buck, as for being in the premiership we arent there yet and show no sign of getting there this season, how long will GFH hang around? what if they decide to take the money and run. There are no gurantees in football.'"



You want Peter Risdale back?

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Quote: Lawrie L "You want Peter Risdale back?'"


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Bates gone

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Quote: flipper "Bates gone'"



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speaking to someone I know very high up at the F.A. he confirms advertising will not be allowed in a clubs name, so red bull leeds is not an option.

bates gone? he had a contract when he sold the club to stay as president for three years.
either ill health, him buying another club, Charlton has been mentioned, or someone else has made the decision.
either ways great news

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Quote: tad rhino "speaking to someone I know very high up at the F.A. he confirms advertising will not be allowed in a clubs name, so red bull leeds is not an option.'"


I wouldn't trust the FA to be able to fight it if a club and their sponsors were set on it.

For one thing Leeds United aren't even under the direct authority of the FA right now, they are a FL club. Now, if Leeds became Red Bulls Leeds and gained promotion to the PL, the FA might try and stop it, but personally I think the PL would step in and tell them to do one.

For me the power rests with the fans. If there's a genuine prospect of LUFC becoming LRB then they need telling that if it happened they'd refuse to support the club and there would be an active campaign against Red Bull.

Quote: tad rhino "bates gone? he had a contract when he sold the club to stay as president for three years.
either ill health, him buying another club, Charlton has been mentioned, or someone else has made the decision.
either ways great news'"


I'm pretty certain the same thing happened after he left Chelsea. He was supposed to have an honoury presidents position, but within 5 minutes he was whining about how Abramovich was doing it wrong and he soon left.

I liked Ken Bates at CFC. At least he stood up for the club. But he was always too poor to be able to run a football club, even back in the 80's.

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football league or premier league it doesn't matter. you can't have a trade name in your title

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Quote: tad rhino "football league or premier league it doesn't matter. you can't have a trade name in your title'"


If Red Bull, Leeds United FC and the fans of Leeds United felt that becoming Leeds Red Bulls was going to help them become a PL club again, then they'd put up a challenge to the rules. And I think they'd win.

Austria Vienna did it back in the 90's. I remembered that from Chelsea playing Austria Memphis in the 90's. Just looking at Austria Vienna's wikipedia page I see there's also something on that about Red Bull Salzburg. There's also the New York Red Bulls.

The reason the FA can talk big and say they'll fight it is because they know the fans won't back it.

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this is England not Austria. also in the states its all trade names.
I will keep repeating it won't happen here.
even if the fans kick off it won't happen.
simple as that

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rlFA Rule 3(l), p101rl

Quote: "A Club competing in any one of The Premier League, The Football League, The Football Conference, the Southern Football League, the Isthmian League and the Northern Premier League shall not be permitted to change its playing name (i.e. the name under which the Club competes in a Competition), as recorded on Form “A”, save with the prior written permission of Council.

Any application for a change of playing name must be received by The Association before 1st April in any calendar year in order for it to be considered by Council for adoption in the following playing season. Council will use its absolute discretion in deciding whether to approve a change in a Club’s playing name.'"


What you keep repeating isn't the issue they are the rules.

Looking at the articles from David conn this morning just highlights the trouble the club is in.

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Some press reports are reporting the club has finally severed bates connection with the club.
Allegedly due to costs for his private plane jetting in from his tax exile base of Monaco , if only we all had that sort of problem. I am not much of a football fan but with bates around there was never a dull moment.
Whilst at Chelsea addressing the journalists post match, he said right the meetings over you lot can p..ss off to your council houses whilst I go to my 300acre farm.

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Quote: Backwoodsman "Some press reports are reporting the club has finally severed bates connection with the club.
Allegedly due to costs for his private plane jetting in from his tax exile base of Monaco , if only we all had that sort of problem. I am not much of a football fan but with bates around there was never a dull moment.
Whilst at Chelsea addressing the journalists post match, he said right the meetings over you lot can p..ss off to your council houses whilst I go to my 300acre farm.'"


I would have loved a dull moment the last 8 years have been a p1ss take.

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I have never really kept up with what went on at utd, one thing I know for certain is somebody I know very well with several other business associates of his tried to buyutd before bates took over. They were all Leeds supporter and successful businessmen.
They could not make any sense out of the accounts and people selling the club, it would have cost them a fortune to do a diligence exercise. They wanted to buy the club as supporters, not to asset strip it as various other parties have done.

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Quote: Backwoodsman "I have never really kept up with what went on at utd, one thing I know for certain is somebody I know very well with several other business associates of his tried to buyutd before bates took over. They were all Leeds supporter and successful businessmen.
They could not make any sense out of the accounts and people selling the club, it would have cost them a fortune to do a diligence exercise. They wanted to buy the club as supporters, not to asset strip it as various other parties have done.'"


The club was in trouble and needed stabilising if it had have been managed correctly it would have been back in the top flight withing 2-3 seasons. Sadly Bates got his claws in.

Though his legacy is being removed, with yorkshire radio now being shut down.

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