Under Bennett we lost the final 6-0. Unbelievable that people refuse to recognise how close we were with what was on paper a vastly inferior team to Australia.

We actually competed under Bennett. We were actually able to go set for set with Australia, in a game with a trophy on the line, in their own back yard. Analyse it, it’s the only time in circa 30 years we’ve managed it. Every other time we’ve met in a game where there was a trophy on the line we’ve been easily beaten.

How many more times is he allowed to get the squad and coach completely wrong and set us back another couple of years?

We could probably do with a director of Rugby (massive shame Sinfield didn’t want to stick it out) because as a club (as in a business) we are probably second to none and that is down to Hetherington.

But clearly the on field operation is not delivering at the moment.

We could probably do with a director of Rugby (massive shame Sinfield didn’t want to stick it out) because as a club (as in a business) we are probably second to none and that is down to Hetherington.

But clearly the on field operation is not delivering at the moment.

Matt Frawley.......................Who signed him? OMG robbing a living.

World beater according to Gawwy.

Of the new signings only Croft seems to have any idea al thanks an out of touch buffoon and an out of his depth coach

Be careful what you wish for.

Caddick & Hethrington saved our club from extinction. I don’t think you realise how close that was.

We have the best all rugby league stadium in the country, some of the best training facilities and we are one of the most profitable. None of this guarantees success on the field and it’s all about getting the right combination at the right time. Those that think GH is past it need to reanalyse our position and get a reality check.

Those that think we should be more ruthless and not care about being a family, go start your own club and run it the way you want. I think it is one of our clubs best qualities and makes me want to support them through any eventuality.

How many clubs would phone up and ask if everything was ok as we hadn’t used a season ticket for a few weeks. I can answer that by saying none other than our great club.

Be grateful for what we have and quit your toxic, entitled view points and try being a true supporter.

Those asking for Rohan gone and "anyone else in" do you really believe that?

Is it really anyone but Rohan Smith? If so that is bonkers.

I agree with what you say about the family culture point, but in my mind it doesn’t have to be a choice between this a winning culture on the sporting side. The latter is very definitely missing and has been for a long time.

Clearly the Golden Generation weren't all in each other's pockets the whole time, and to sustain that success egos would have had to kept well in check. I also remember Shaun Edwards talking about the Wigan team that dominated the game for a decade, and it clearly wasn't a place for faint hearts and feelings.

The Rhinos family stuff is great and I have no problem with it. But as Batley says it doesn't have to be one or the other, but if the balance goes too far towards being 'nice' for the first team then the ruthless edge needed to win things will be blunted.

With the setup behind the scenes that Hetherington has created Leeds will always be in the top flight and will always, in the long run, be competitive. It's insane to think that some short or even medium term on-field underperformance would lead to some muppets demanding the man who masterminded that stability needs to go. It shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how Leeds operate and how Rugby League works as a business. It's not even grass is greener stuff, it's comparing a couple of weeds on our lawn with next door's cow paddock.

I agree with all of this, all i would say is a DOR may help with the onfield stuff.

Those that want Hetherington out of the club are being bery very short sight and have short memories imo

of the field GH has, and still is, the man.
on field its shambolic and a younger D.O.R. is essential moving forwards

I honestly don't know how many times it has to be repeated for it to go in but there is clearly a big difference between on the field management and off it. No one can deny he does great stuff off the field, it is on the field that he is clearly past it. That is why we continue to fail and never move forward.

It is a director of rugby position or whatever we want to call it that we desperately need. GH is fine to stay running the club behind the scenes but someone else with a more modern take on coach + squad building to takeover that side of the club. It's mental how many times fans seem to deliberately confuse the two different aspects of running the club. At this point it feels deliberate to shut down the debate.

It's a terrible strawmen argument, oh you want us to pick better coaches and players? Well what about our lovely stadium! Lads we want a rugby team to support, believe in and entertain us. We don't support a rugby stadium or a financial statement.