This season we have had a major Injury crisis, that’s the reason we sit in 7th in the table

so have hull.
so have cas.
where are they in the table?

There’s just no rational debate on here it seems, no one has said BM is perfect, that’s a strawman, just because a couple of us don’t blame BM for absolutely everything and are looking at all the reasons for our poor form it doesn’t mean BM can do no wrong.

Spot on.
The same posters have been calling for his head for years. It's comical at times.

And the same posters have defended him, despite the flaming obvious. It’s comical all the time.

The obvious being the four Super League titles, two Challenge Cups, League Leaders Shield and World Club title?

Injuries Galloway & youngsters are to blame then

Mr Printer you can’t have it both ways - either it’s the players being at near full strength that is the difference or the coach. 2016 was everybody else but the coach despite BM admitting he made some big errors but 2017 was all about him not a fuller fitter squad - which is it

Which is it - this is why your argument lacks clarity and gravity

The injuries excuse is pathetic. Should it affect performances? Sure. Should we have only won 1 game out of the last 9 league games with the teams put out? Absolutely not, unless anyone thinks form that over a whole season would see us bottom is acceptable. Betts was sacked by Widnes with a record of 3 wins from 12 games. Our record in the last 12 games is 3 wins and one draw, with two of the wins and the draw being the first three of those games. Should we not expect much, much better from Leeds if lowly Widnes think its unacceptable?

Its the same arguments as 2016. Never mind the 17 we put out, its attitude and the way we play that stinks the place out far too often.

Credit BM with all the GF wins by all means, but stop trying to excuse his inability to manage the team when things aren't going well. The evidence suggests he's great at managing a team thats going well but really not very good at all when things aren't working.

And by the way, if you want competition wins as some kind of shield from criticism, then this year looks like a disaster from that perspective as well.

Personally I'd have said in 2016 and this year a comfortable Middle 8s (5th to 7th) and no CC was perfectly acceptable, so long as the team looked like it was trying, was playing some entertaining rugby and some kids got experience along the way. Due to injuries we've played kids a bit, but on the other KPIs its a massive fail from me.

Not quite the e-mail from GH yet but he's in todays YEP talking about injuries & trying to gloss it as "more interesting for SL".
He also highlights the next 5 games as a crucil "mini-season".

He is so far out of touch, he even says we looked a top four team six weeks back. We have not looked top four all year

Yes, what's the worst that can happen. Relegation by failing to get into the Million pound game. New stands half full, and the same old tinted glasses of everything rosie, keep re-signing the aging forwards and its the injuries that have put us here. McD to sign an extension to his current contract and we visit some old grounds like Odsal. The comments against a league restructure come to haunt GH too !

If Leeds do end up in the Middle 8 for the second time in 3 years, and with a shiny new stadium to fill next year, GH is going to have to do something to convince the floating supporters to give him their hard earned. I’m not sure what that something is but it will have to be a statement of intent.

Goes a bit deeper than that, he has hung his hat on getting corporates with the boxes and extra seats can't see them wanting to use those facilities if the team aint winning or even worse. The last time I had corporate seats not only was there a hefty premium for the seat but I was paying £35 a head for a 2 course meal that was policed like school dinners