Not willing to settle for mediocrity when it can easily be resolved. Obviously your happy with failure.

i see your thinking but they did have the likes of Cunningham,wellens, long and Sculthorpe amongst others back then, class players.All steady eddies accross the park pretty much now.Sums up SL as a whole sadly these days

The noble cover-up phrase of a whiner.

I see a lot of people on here calling for an Aussie coach, has any of these people been watching the Aussie game this year? I have and it has been the most boring rugby I have seen in years. Yes there have been some close games making it quite intense but the style of rugby is staid and not enjoyable to watch. They may have the measure of SL clubs as in the WCC series this year but their attendances are shrinking year on year, punters are voting with their feet. Would I sacrifice our style of rugby for the Antipodean style? Not a chance!

I've watched quite a bit of NRL this year, and I agree to a large extent with regards to how boring the rugby can be, to an extent saved by the close nature. (And by how much nicer it is to watch a game where the rucks are nice and quick).

Not to say there has not been some good stuff to watch, Anthony Milford was amazing yesterday. The Raiders and Tigers have also been pretty good to watch.

I commented about the number of Aussies we've got in the team being too high earlier. By my reckoning when everyone's fit there'll probably be 6 in our match day squad, far too many for a club like Leeds imo. Especially when only Moon and Cuthbo are top top class. (Delaney and Garbo but are more in the Kylie bracket than The Webb or Ali one).

It's also strange we are relying on them from for forwards given its generally thought of as easier (especially for SL clubs) to produce forwards.

Watching some NRL for the first time in a long, long while this year - partly because I thought the £99 12 month pass on Premier HD was a good deal and partly because SL was dire during the opening few rounds - living in hope rather than expectation that things will improve in that regard.

I don't understand why the two games can't at least have a unified approach to laws and interpretation. I know we're not supposed to simply follow their lead but they do have some good ideas.

If we could get our basic skills up to that of the Aussie teams it would be a start - no coach in the UK - Tony Smith apart seems capable of achieving that. Also the way the Aussies develop talent is light years ahead of anything we do here. It is time for another Graham Murray - someone who is going to leave a positive mark on the club.

"All of the issues" We need a stand off who can make decisions and lead a team. That's it. Mac thought Sutcliffe was the man. He clearly isn't. The coach must pay for such a shocking decision.

That makes about as much sense as playing Sutcliffe at stand off

So our appalling lack of control at the ptb (on defence) will be fixed by a stand off? Or poor defensive reads? Or the fact our offload game has been nullified? How about our wingers struggling with kicks?

I'm not a doom merchant, but these are all issues which have shown themselves at one time or another this season and are not going to be fixed by a stand off.

They'll be solved with a change of coach. Fresh ideas. He's had his time

We'll have to disagree, the players have to take some responsibility for me.

Why do so many seem surprised by what they are seeing? This year was always going to be very tough after winning the treble and losing legendary players.

Add to that the awful injury list we have carried over what has been a tough opening set of fixtures and we are about where I would have expected.

Against saints and cas we have looked better and if players stay fit we are only going to get better.

Changing the coach won't change any of the difficulties this season will inevitably bring. McD has earned the right to be in charge through the transition.

Oh, and those saying he doesn't develop youth I think handley, Golding, lilley, ward, singo, Walters etc.. would disagree. Developing youth is about easing in the very best over time, not just chucking in any old kid in the hope they make it.