It'll all be over by April, then it won't, then it will be over again, then it won't then it will, then we'll win it.

There will be a hosepipe ban, no matter how much it rains.

I do hope we finish 5th in the regular rounds next season. The flat track bullies in 1st-4th will wet themselves.

I hope we finish 1st and Wigan and Warrington finish 5th and 6th having taken their foot off the gas believing this is what they need to do to win, and we meet one of them in the Playoff Semi at Headingley and people think this will be the time for one of them to exact revenge for the previous 2 years and prove that 5th is the best place to finish and we'll be the ones to suffer for having played better during the regular season.................and then they still lose to Leeds and we then win the Grand Final....AGAIN!

There's no need to hope for that outcome - it's a given

I look forward to Leeds attitude of utter contempt for the regular season fixtures along with the deliberate throwing of fixtures (let's call it strategic positional tweaking) against whipping boy SL rabble which is necessary to establish that coveted 5th place finish.

Like GH, I remain confident that Leeds can reach their target of 10,000 mugs next season.

Have you been on the bottle mate, your typing is all over the place?

Early morning just got up and pc is playing up,and I've got hands like cows udders

Personally think that Leeds will finish higher up the table this year (injuries permitting)
I cannot agree that Leeds throw matches to get 5th spot.
But I certainly think there will be more of an emphasis to finish higher up the table. Not to the same degree as Wigan did last year and run out of steam.

But the thing is, the only real advantage is to finish in the top 2 it does not matter where you finish outside of these places as the advantages are so slim its not worth worrying about as we have proved in the last 2 seasons.There is no incentive for Leeds to change their strategy of peaking when it matters and coasting through the rounds.

I personally see the next year like 2009. Not saying we are going to win, but there has been some criticism from people, just think that they are going to go out and try and prove they can win both league leaders and GF. If they do or not is another matter but I get a feeling that's what we are going to do

I think much depends on how the fixtures fall this year. I mentioned on another thread the run we had in May/June which happened to be the gap between CC rounds. It involved a very tough run of fixtures and also tough away games against Wigan and Catalans the week before the WCC/CC Finals.

Looking at the teams above us....
Warrington will be much the same.
Wigan I think will take a backwards step due to playing personnel changes, especially if Hock leaves too.
Catalans depends on the new coach, whether he's more of a Trent Robinson or Kevin Walters.
St. Helens, for me the hardest to predict, will they be the same under Brown as the Giants were? Strong early pace setters who fade away badly or will their experience as a bigger club help them last the course of the year?

There is also the CC, another full run to the final will have an effect on some league results. We can't battle on 4 fronts (WCC, CC, LLS, GF). As the WCC is a 1 off game it won't be that so that means we'll have to drop in one of the other 3.

My outside runner would have to be Hull for next year.

Not a bad shout.

Can see Wigan not being as strong as it stands with the losses to their squad.
Wire will be much the same as they have in previous years.
Don't really rate brown as a coach so not sure how saints go.
Hudds don't think are as strong as their fans think
Leeds who knows!!

Hull would be a good outside bet

Well would you Adam and 'Eve' it!

Having been wrong about Champions Leeds for at least the last two years, Willy has now crept out of his retreat and decided to thrill us with his predictions.

If you can wade through the repetition of his limited vocabulary (which this time round seems to back everything both ways in his attempt to avoid a hat trick of defeated opinions) we could conclude that he finally accepts that Leeds will be favourites to retain their Championship despite all handicaps.

Perhaps he is keeping his current name because of a hidden message BillEve it!