i cannot belief mags has been slaughterd yes he didnt play is best game for country but to write him of no.I think smith got it wrong playing jp 2nd row he defended too far in leaving argubly the worlds best player inglis and slater to have one on ones briscoe should have come in and forced the aussies to go round them a sliding defence which is used every week at leeds.The 2 new halves eastman and tomkins were good in last 25mins when we had more ball and all bares well for future.Sam burgess came to leeds with bradford this year and was slaughterd about his performance and was taken of ,yesterday he looked every inch the great young prospect he no doubt his .Point is class is permanent semi final last year mags was our best player for england the player andrew johns was raving about fact, he has scored in grand finals world club finals test matches against any country, fact still only 26 so come on lets get of his back .

The reason Tomkins was not seen in the first half was because our pack was getting destroyed. The introduction of Crabtree and Burgess, gave us a bit of grunt up front as they didnt seem intimidated by the Aussies. Also good ball from Sinfield at Hooker meant Tomkins was in the game more.

Absolutely spot on

with 3 titles on the trot, the knives will be out for our players and that's the agenda people are peddling.

Personally i thought we'd have done better if it wasn't for those stinking saints players.

So its OK for Tompkins to be invisible when our pack are getting hammered, but McGuire gets slaughtered for it.

The problem was, McGuire was invisible even when our pack [iweren't[/i getting hammered! And unlike Tomkins, he's played the Aussies before so there is this expectation that he will actually be able to bring something to the party. Which he profoundly failed to do.

He was poor but the amount of stick he's getting is disgusting, it shouldn't matter whether you've played the Aussies before or not if your supposidly good enough to play test rugby then you should be able "to bring something to the party" Every England player in the first half was shocking with the exception of Crabtree and Sinfield, even Tompkins and Burgess who are getting creamed over were shizz. But it seems to me McGuire is being made a scapegoat for what was a very poor performance from everyone in an England shirt

Maguire was poor and struggled I agree but wasnt helped by Tompkins failure to get into the game early on.

Tompkins didnt get hold of the game from the halves and he should have been expected to from the 1st minute..........in similar circumstances a young Shaun Edwards would have wanted the ball at every opportunity.

I thought once we were beat he came into the game and performed reasonably but you cant start performing at 26-0 down!!

It's perfectly appropriate and personally, I'm enjoying it after our lot got stick last year.

But aside from my vicarious enjoyment, the truth of the matter is that he stood out as having a very poor game - all the way through.

Tell that to Tony Smith. He should have addressed the obvious leak we had in the first half instead of waiting for the Aussies to grab 26 points from us.

That was Tomkins' and Eastmond's first game against the Aussies. I think as young players they did extremely well, especially Tomkins who was given precious little support in the first half by any of the experienced campaigners.

However, like I said, Tony Smith should have addressed our leak in the first half, preferably after the second try had been scored. That was a dismal failure on behalf of our national coach.

who made all the kicks in those first 20 minutes Mcguire & Sinfield did, Tomkins was not allowed near the ball.

the ball never got passed to Tomkins due to the greediness of Mcguire and Sinfield.

That you enjoy England playing badly speaks volumes for your character or lack thereof.