Absolutely correct.

Agree with all of that. Wane for me would be superb at this moment in our history. He would turn us into winners again. It will still take time to get us back to challenging for honours but I'm convinced we would see significant improvement

I've been reading stuff elsewhere that hes taking legal action saying he wanted to move players on and was refused also wanted to tear up Loloheas contract . I actually think GH is such a cheapskate that hes hoping Agar will take the team to a respectable position enough to warrant a permanent deal.

100%

I think the only possible caveat is that I'm not sure how well his approach would work straight away with a team without the quality or character required to be the best, if that's what the problem is at Leeds. The demands he makes on his players are massive, which is exactly what you need, but maybe that sort of shock therapy would be counter-productive to begin with for a team on its backside. The 'lesser' players that Wigan had in later years were still brought into the culture that had been there for years, lead by O'Loughlin & others, and then it was up to the new fella to step up. Not so easy to build a culture like that from scratch.

That said, totally agree with what you say, there's no doubt in my mind that he would be successful in the medium & long term at Leeds if he goes there. Hopefully his reputation as a knuckle-dragging thug who hates everything outside of a WN postcode will mean someone else gets the job!

Interesting from Sinfield when asked how the players have taken it he said something aling the lines that some who were close to him will be sad but theres a few who were not getting picked not so sad (or words to that effect)

Maybe Furner was reluctant to play academy players?

I too feel sorry for Furner who has been made the scapegoat.
The players who have not performed have got him the sack.
They should be careful what they wish for as some too many to mention have not delivered on the pitch and could find themselves on the scrapheap themselves when a new coach arrives.
True we were not playing anywhere near to where we should be playing even with the dross in our team and that could be down to the coach.
But the players need to take a good hard look in the mirror and start delivering.
Clearly players like Hurrel and possibly Merrin feel bad for Furner so let`s see how long they last in a Leeds shirt.
And unless a decent appointment is made we might find it hard to recruit other marquee players in the future not to mention a good coach.
If what Furner is saying is correct then either GH and or KS should not escape without blame for mis managing this situation and this club.

If what Furner says is true I think it looks bad on him as a coach. Yes he may have wanted to offload players but he should realise that it simply isn’t as easy as that and get down to coaching the squad he has available. Then over time build the team into the one he wants.

Good coaches can get average players playing above their capabilities

I'd like to know in a salary capped era how on earth Furner expected half the squad to be moved on in one go..

Got to say IF it rings true about DF not being allowed to move players on then it's a shambles the Coach should choose who he thinks should stay end of discussion imo.

Id like to know how in a SC sport why GH/Sinfield think retaining/recruiting so much dross can get us anywhere near the top 5.

And how do you get rid of contracted players just like that? Its nothing to do with Furner not being allowed to, its not as simple as that.

If true Furner is being unrealistic in what he wanted and should have got on with using his coaching ability to get the best out of the players he has.

Correct.
And this squad full of dross won a Grand final 18 months ago,without any marquee players.

Also when we heard that players were being told they were no longer wanted people on here were assuming it was Sinfield that was wanting rid, maybe it was Furner? And if so how does he expect the players he wants to get rid of to play well for him?

I suspect there’s a lot more to this and it hasn’t happened over night

Hall and Watkins were our registered marquee players then. Taking Merrin and Hurrell out of the equation, the squad of players was much better then. However, Merrin and Hurrell are better than the best then.

But surely you can not in the slightest way argue our halfs currently are up to the same standard? Halfs massively make a difference. Nor do we have the same Cuthbertson and Parcell of that team.

Things have been going backwards for a while, and Furner was making his own job untenable irrespective to what others are saying. There is a lot more to this than meets the eye, everyone at Headingley are being tight lipped, but it did start some weeks ago at Stanningley, when GH KS met with Furner, it's funny how a month later he's gone.
What has happened, everyone on here has been saying how players have been told they can leave and there is no future for certain players and they have been told this. Like the players or not if your one of the players who have been given this information then why play for a coach who doesn't want you or a club who wants you to go quietly. It's never going to happen and this has been reflected in the team performance, either Furner or Sinfields man management has been a disgrace. Furner has lost his job because the team have not performed for him, and if he would not have been sacked then Sinfield would have had to go.
The Club have to start changing its culture, some of the decisions made have been shocking at best. Players given long contracts then shipped out to Fetherstone, out of the club, old players given new contracts, JJB and Ablett, James Lowe being made short term Head coach ( one big joke), on the other hand Furner has signed some quality but when watching the team there has always been something missing, Commitment springs to mind. Sinfield is now the man under pressure, Relegation is still on the table along with a debt of £23million. You don't fill a stadium playing rubbish and losing games as we have been doing and with over 3,000 corporate seats to fill you need to get it right on the pitch.
Leeds need a top quality coach not a cheap option, and the first job that the coach needs to do is to build a spirit of togetherness, you cannot force players under contract out of the door, but as contracts expire you can then move them on, you do not off players in the middle of contracts. This time the club have to get this right