No, the point is that Coote run through because a kicker of Thurstons quality gets that kick through, a kicker of Burrow's quality, or any of the names you mentioned before dont do as often.

And i dont think it is fitness, it was that NQC asked questions nearly every tackle constantly rolling forward and moving them about and keeping leeds on the back foot. NQC's structure and execution meant they didnt have to work as hard

I would go as far as saying I dont think NRL players are fitter than SL players in any meaningful way. I dont think they are particularly faster or more athletic. I just think they are better. What an SL player can do 8 times out of 10, an NRL player can do 99 times out of 100 and these are simple things.
You are right those little 1%s are the difference. But those 1%s are the pass being right on the button so the receiver isnt stretching or stuttering, the right pass being chosen, the bomb going that little bit higher, having that bit more spin on it, the grubber being that bit more accurate.

Its amazing how often NRL sides or Australia score "lucky" tries against us. Or "soft" tries. It just doesn't happen so much in reverse, because the Aussies generally make far fewer mistakes and in both attack and defence are quicker to react as a group.

The structured nature of their plays means they are always asking questions in attack, and in defence are used to facing the same so are better at reading plays.

All of it comes down to needing to be at a higher level week in week out and lets be honest a bigger pool of better players.

The Aussies are far more composed. If you watched Thurston he hardly broke sweat in the first half.

Absolutely not they do the basics very well punish every error and when they upped the gears their/JT's true class put the game away.
The only difference to us v NQC and the other 2 games was at least we made a game of it for the 1st 40 but as we well know a RL match is an 80 minute encounter.

With regards to my own post re-lucky tries i do think that the Coote and the last one (O'neil)? had plenty of luck about them but that didn't detract from them being a class above us.

The more I practice the luckier I get.

just read from sunday and this prob fairest summing up , 1st half was above expectations for me.

hardaker or an uninjured ward would be my captain and jjb club captain.

sutty and lilley deserved a crack but we need to bring in proven quality before we are too far behind.

sinfield and peacock were ice and fire leadership wise hard to replace by anyone.

galloway had a better game , liked ferres , and step too far for jimmy.

hardaker doesn't seem to be beating 1st man running out anymore

Most worrying sign for me is that when we didnt get the bounce of the ball for 10 mins it completely destroyed our patience, we had little resilience and didnt absorb the pressure well enough, I actually think the fitness of some of the player is questionable
Mcguire still captain for me, JJb to share with Burrow until Mags is back
Who are you gonna bring in for Lilly or Sutcliffe? and its not there fault we have shipped so many points in the last 2 games
Hardaker seems vey out of sync in attack imo, he isnt pushing through holes in support when they are available and is being given the ball to early to properly link in with the line (though that might not be his fault) and isnt offered the overlap enough, our attacking set plays in general are poor, in fact, when was the last time we scored off an attacking passing set play? these are problems that persisted last year as well though

yes, and that didn't end too badly if i recall

Tbf after the quick double at the start of the 2nd half it was 14-4 for nearly 15 mins. Once that try from Sutcliffe shinning a grubber into their players hands with less than 20 left then I can understand heads dropping. 16 points in under 20 mins vs NQC wasn't going to happen, but they did keep fighting when they were only 10 behind with 25/30 mins left.

It was Leeds' 7th WCC Final, Leeds recorded their lowest ever score (equal lowest try count, lowest goal count) while conceding their highest ever total (most tries against), goes without saying their biggest ever defeat in this fixture and by some considerable distance. Previous reversals were by 4, 8 and 8 - on Sunday by 34.

Over the course of eight days 16 - 94 (-7icon_cool.gif, you have to go back to the dark days of 1996 to find a bigger brace (-38 & -54 - home to Bradford then away at Wigan)

Rather factual post TVOC which will be deemed negative and against the spirit of being a true Leeds fan. You'll have torquemada81 denouncing you if you're not careful.

the tries are not their fault in so far as sutty can't help having one leg and lilley can't help their size ,
last year zak looked looked dangerous and sutty was good when fit and kev then played better than b4 his axing.

we've got away with 2 small hb and letting kev off tackling

to be proven if falloon and jjb can add anything (jjb only less likely than achurch to get injured)

last year we had a new angle of cuthbo but no organised moves.

in a speech jjb said last year was the coming together of what mcd had been putting in place previous years

so did they rely on jp and did they factor in garbutt arriving 14 games earlier than planned

was discussing on way to widnes how have been planless and idealess for years

even the 80s had the wall move William

We wernt very good in attack but you have to remeber some of these NRL defences are incredibly well drilled, there was a semi-final a few years back that finished 4-0 and that included Foran Pearce DCE and Maloney, so its hard to be too critical of our attack based on this game

The kick dint go where he wanted, the fullback was just working harder than everyone else just in case.
They may not be much fitter, but at the 50 min mark we had used one sub and I think NQL had used all of theres? Next year they definitely will be anyway as their subs are dropping from 10 to 8