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Quote: ThePrinter "Baldwinson has barely been in the 17 two minutes and already people have a new young player to moan about not getting picked even though he's only come back from loan the other week. Classic SouthStander.

Wonder how long it'll be before stories of McDermott having a vendetta against Oledzki begin? Maybe McDermott has a secret hatred of Polish people coming here taking our jobs
Did Baldwinson get his chance through playing playing well? Or was it more likely the fact we had 3 props injured and another suspended

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Quote: leedsnsouths "Did Baldwinson get his chance through playing playing well? Or was it more likely the fact we had 3 props injured and another suspended'"

Probably a bit of both as is generally the norm with young players. Would Wigan have so many youngsters in if they didn't have so many injuries?

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "Probably a bit of both as is generally the norm with young players. Would Wigan have so many youngsters in if they didn't have so many injuries?'"


Probably not, but if Wigan had a young player that was killing it against Championship opposition you can be sure they would have a look at him in a Superleague game

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Quote: leedsnsouths "Probably not, but if Wigan had a young player that was killing it against Championship opposition you can be sure they would have a look at him in a Superleague game'"


And so have Leeds, they just haven't done it by your preferred timeline.

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Quote: ThePrinter "And so have Leeds, they just haven't done it by your preferred timeline.'"


When? When have we given a player a chance without any injuries opening up a space, based on performances in the championship?

The reality is if we hadnt had so many props out at once Baldwinson wouldnt have got a shot.

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



It's time that players like Baldwinson stepped down or were moved on, to give young players like Oledzki a shot.

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Quote: leedsnsouths "When? When have we given a player a chance without any injuries opening up a space, based on performances in the championship?

The reality is if we hadnt had so many props out at once Baldwinson wouldnt have got a shot.'"



When have Wigan done it?

We went with Golding as a starting FB, ok Hardaker left but we could've easily gone and bought a FB in....someone like Morgan Escare for example, where did he go again? Or that fellow French player, the prop called Roman Naverette (sp?) he'll have jumped ahead of some youngsters on his arrival.

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Quote: ThePrinter "When have Wigan done it?

We went with Golding as a starting FB, ok Hardaker left but we could've easily gone and bought a FB in....someone like Morgan Escare for example, where did he go again? Or that fellow French player, the prop called Roman Naverette (sp?) he'll have jumped ahead of some youngsters on his arrival.'"


Well Wigan have a reserve team so they dont usually have players in the championship, but they do promote many young players without injury forcing a change
Manfreidi, Gildart and Williams to name a few.

Manfredi is probably the best example, they dropped Charnley, who was an incumbent international, in order to get him in the team, can you honestly imagine any of our established senior players, let alone our internationals, would be dropped to accommodate an unproven youth player?

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Quote: leedsnsouths "Well Wigan have a reserve team so they dont usually have players in the championship, but they do promote many young players without injury forcing a change
Manfreidi, Gildart and Williams to name a few.

Manfredi is probably the best example, they dropped Charnley, who was an incumbent international, in order to get him in the team, can you honestly imagine any of our established senior players, let alone our internationals, would be dropped to accommodate an unproven youth player?'"


They didn't drop Charnley, Manfredi got his first games through injuries to others and then Burgess leaving for Aus made the decision for Wigan and again with Charnley to RU.

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Quote: leedsnsouths "

Manfredi is probably the best example, they dropped Charnley, who was an incumbent international, in order to get him in the team, can you honestly imagine any of our established senior players, let alone our internationals, would be dropped to accommodate an unproven youth player?'"


Handley was given a game at the expense of Briscoe after some good games for Fev.

As for Manfredi, I wonder how much of that had to do with Charnley's decision to leave.

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Quote: leedsnsouths "Well Wigan have a reserve team so they dont usually have players in the championship, but they do promote many young players without injury forcing a change
Manfreidi, Gildart and Williams to name a few.

Manfredi is probably the best example, they dropped Charnley, who was an incumbent international, in order to get him in the team, can you honestly imagine any of our established senior players, let alone our internationals, would be dropped to accommodate an unproven youth player?'"

mcdermott dropped Sinfield our greatest ever captain for sutcliffe., and last year moved hardaker out to the wing after a string of bad performances, (thus causing the teddy spit) so your point is.

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Quote: Bullseye "www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/meet-mikolaj-oledzki-polish-born-10108547'"

good article that, fact is, oledzki is looking more like a morly, sam burgess type player who at 18-19 can go straight to top tier and even international as a teenager. rather than Baldwinson, who looks more like a slower developing steady solid super league player like a singleton type player. it seems Oledzki is just about ready to take the shackles of in next few weeks and could take off.

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From the Mirror article it seems that Morley is keen for Oledzki to get an early run, McDermott less so.
I wonder if he could be in the 17 against Widnes on Easter Monday?

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Quote: Old Feller "From the Mirror article it seems that Morley is keen for Oledzki to get an early run, McDermott less so.'"


McDermott's name isn't even mentioned once in that article so how do you get that conclusion?

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