Seen a couple put Stevie Ward in their starting line-ups (which admittedly should be fine for Hull). But got to say, again not convinced by him ATM. Possibly come good IF he can go into pre-season injury free and hit the gym hard and bulk up instead of the last 2 pre-seasons which have been spent rehabbing serious shoulder injuries.

Send him to Bradford and give baldwinson a go. Ward looked Iike a boy against men in most games particularly last night. Don't think he will be good enough.

He could be good enough. Like I pointed out, 2 pre-seasons ruined by shoulder rehab has spoiled his physical growth. That's the main issue with him, not looking strong enough, that could change though.

regards Ward, Way too early to be writing him off as not good enough.unfortunately he has had his injury problems and has yet to re establish himself like he did when he first broke through.like the printer says,he needs to bulk up if he is to be a backrower in the long run and should hopefully get a chance in the off season but that hasnt been possible yet due to the nature of his injuries.I would like to see him just get a settled run in the team in the back row if thats his position not messing about with him like the failed attempt at centre.

ward,sutcliffe and singleton are still raw and it will take a few more seasons yet for them to become consistant performer week in week out.I hope the coaching staff have a bit more patience than some people on here or we could end up watching our starlets playing out their best years at other SL clubs!

Stevie Ward has been disappointing this season but he has shown previously he has the talent. Perhaps he should cover the 9 spot rather than Clarkson as he has good hands and was previously a half back.

Can't argue with any of that. Has the potential hope he gets to realise it. Still have a little concern with his shoulders though. Seen him a few time getting up of the ground holding his shoulder gingerly. Might be nothing and a little paranoia on his part after having two bad injuries to his shoulder. And little knocks always occur, just a worry with his recent history

Again a decent shout. Good hands, can tackle, for me clarkson is a tad dissapointing for me cannot see his long term future at Leeds. Approx 3yrs ago looked to have potential ran some good lines but he is now just a grafter and we have plenty of those already

He hasn't really had much continuity with playing centre, then on the bench, then injuries.

If he can get the game time together, he'll look much better.

Why?

Because he can't defend for e?

The stats from the Wigan game do not make very good reading at all IMO for the substitutes of Bailey, Kirke, and Singleton.

I don't know how long they were on the park for, which could play a part in one, two, or maybe all three. I know in Singleton's case twice he offloaded, which of course restricts the carry in metre terms.

Kirkes stats are absolutely pathetic, if truth be told. Really really unacceptable stats for a player at this level. 14 tackles, 3 misses, 3 carries at only 4.33m per carry, and one error to boot. There is definitely more cause for concern there, than there is for BJB, or at least should be.

Regarding BJB, he made 11 carries for 85 metres.

Hall made 25 for 202
Hardaker made 20 for 150

Briscoe made 152 from 17 carries when the sides last met a few weeks ago. In fact he's made over 100 metres in 10 of his 11 games (6 times going past 150 metres).

The only time he failed to hit 100 was the previous week vs Cas when he only got 87 from 12 carries.....

But even BJB only made 82 from 15 carries in that game although he got the plaudits for getting the two tries.

Briscoe's two lowest games in terms of metres made were the Cas game and against Widnes (113), the two occasions he's been switched to play on the left to accommodate BJB on the right.

Drama queen.

BJB is fast becoming a scapegoat because he is leaving. The kid is and remains a great player, very exciting with the ball and a running chance. I suppose it is sometimes convenient to pin the crap to the back of the guy who is leaving...

Briscoe should come back in for Hull, and if Watkins isn't fit then Ablett should play Centre as he is the most competent alternative we have.

Most of all we need to dominate their pack (shouldn't be too hard) so our slow halves get the maximum time possible to play their game.

I don't understand or agree with the people who don't want bish never to play again for us, yes he's leaving at the end of the season, but he is seeing out his contract just like lee smith in 2009.

IMO he deserved to retain his place in the side for the Wigan game after his performance against cas. That said I believe briscoe deserves to come back in for him this week.