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Quote: mattsrhinos1978 "A coach 100% has a huge bearing on the development of a player Jim, agreed, a player has to have the hunger and desire to be the best version of themselves, but that will more often than not be based around the physical development...size, strength, speed, fitness....

Where the coach earns their stripes is the technical and intelligence side of the game, teaching that player, even ones with all that desire, how to mould those physical gifts into an effective RL player, the nuisances of the game, knowing what good habbits look like and having the ability to install them, knowing what bad habbits look like and having the ability to eradicate them...

That said, The part i wrote about the next crop being wasted wasn't really directed at Rohan in particular, was just part of a frustrated rant TBH at the general state of the club on the field, for me, being hugely invested in the youth, what im seeing there is just as frustrating as the first team.....What i would say regarding Rohan, with knowing the version of rugby league he favours, do you have confidence he knows what good RL habbits look like to even try to install in the next batch? More importantly, when you watch these players in the reserves and Academy now, do you think they are getting that from Tony Smith? I hope to god im proved wrong, but my answer would be no to both'"

I’m hearing there’s way less junior talent around to choose from Matt. New rules are marginalising the game even more. Is that what you’re seeing?

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A good coach can get 110% out of players, can make average players look good players. This is achieved by not only knowledge of the game but having the physiological skills to mould players into a team that wants to win and play for each other the coach and the badge and creates a good culture.
Rhinos are a good group of players, with plenty of skill. Capable of much more but I’m not sure RS has the ability to get the best out of them. Something is lacking that is obvious. A good coach can have no excuses if after two years and three different teams he cannot produce a good consistent team. There are no excuses as the quality of players is good and the investment in bringing new players in and getting players out who were deemed not good enough done. We are lacking something that is obvious to most, leadership, man management. Someone you would follow out of the trenches. If the club does not act soon another season wasted in mid or lower regions of the table. For a club the size and wealth of Leeds it not acceptable!

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Quote: Shabino "I’m hearing there’s way less junior talent around to choose from Matt. New rules are marginalising the game even more. Is that what you’re seeing?'"

I would say it goes in cycles shabs, me personaly, im not seeing a trend or pattern, just that some years/intakes will be more talented than others, which has always been the case, the current 1st year Academy and top age Scholarship for example would be one of the most talented side by side groups in recent memory with a potential 1 to 17 for next season as strong as we have seen in the Academy for years......If we develop them correctly

Theres some really good 2nd year scholarship players from Yorkshire community clubs who have joined Saints/Warrington scholarship aswel as the ones at Leeds, so plenty of talent around that age

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Yep Matts there are a few in the system, recent team results notwithstanding, that look decent prospects. Good to see Max Simpson training again, he will take a couple of years to mature but he always looked good to me.

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Quote: mattsrhinos1978 "I would say it goes in cycles shabs, me personaly, im not seeing a trend or pattern, just that some years/intakes will be more talented than others, which has always been the case, the current 1st year Academy and top age Scholarship for example would be one of the most talented side by side groups in recent memory with a potential 1 to 17 for next season as strong as we have seen in the Academy for years......If we develop them correctly

Theres some really good 2nd year scholarship players from Yorkshire community clubs who have joined Saints/Warrington scholarship aswel as the ones at Leeds, so plenty of talent around that age'"

Thanks Matt. Sounds healthier than I was hearing. I’m gonna watch Sherburn Bears this year. Very local and heard it’s good old fashioned RL!

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Quote: mattsrhinos1978 "I would say it goes in cycles shabs, me personaly, im not seeing a trend or pattern, just that some years/intakes will be more talented than others, which has always been the case, the current 1st year Academy and top age Scholarship for example would be one of the most talented side by side groups in recent memory with a potential 1 to 17 for next season as strong as we have seen in the Academy for years......If we develop them correctly

Theres some really good 2nd year scholarship players from Yorkshire community clubs who have joined Saints/Warrington scholarship aswel as the ones at Leeds, so plenty of talent around that age'"

Thanks Matt. Sounds healthier than I was hearing. I’m gonna watch Sherburn Bears this year. Very local and heard it’s good old fashioned RL!

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mates a junior coach there. Good local club

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Quote: tad rhino "mates a junior coach there. Good local club'"

Can’t believe they’ve been on my doorstep all this time, and in never even knew!

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Quote: tad rhino "mates a junior coach there. Good local club'"

Omg, they got Goole Vikings this Saturday. Gonna be rough….I’m there!!

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Quote: Shabino "Omg, they got Goole Vikings this Saturday. Gonna be rough….I’m there!!'"

Surely that should be the Goolies.

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Quote: batleyrhino "I understand that our Marquee players are Croft and Newman, you’re only allowed two according to the RFL website. I think it’s next year when the rules change?

rlhttps://www.rugby-league.com/salary-cap#:~:text'"


The rule changed for this season.

Clubs are now allowed 3 Marquee Players, but one of them has to be Federation Trained.

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Brad Arthur could be out of a job soon, apparently.

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I might put my hat in the ring for player-coach. I know I'd have the popular backing from you guys.

I'd play ten minutes and then need a transplant or two.

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Sounds great, when can you start…

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I'm thinking if I actually had to take a hit-up into a super league side middle, I'd probably throw the ball and run away screaming. Not sure I'd be fixing our infamous "Passive defence" very much on reflection.

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