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Quote: rollin thunder "Think some people are massively over estimateing Hull, people making out they are major total contenders, rather than perpetual under achicivers. Radford will not see the season out if or when they inevitably hit one of their slumps, think they are 5 placed side at very best, yes they have been on the spend and packed the side with big Pacific Islanders, but have a crap coach and too many tantrum players with egos and attitudes.

They may win tomorrow but if they do it won't be the easy win some of our so called fans are willing for.

Leeds by 6'"


Think this one is my fav. Long old shortlist mind.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Cas announced earlier in the week they have sold out their allocation of tickets, could well be another full house at Headingley.

I’m predicting

Toronto 22 Cas 20

Leeds 26 Hull 16'"
Don`t bother doing the lottery.

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Until you get rid of Sinfield and Agar you’ve not got a chance, mainly Sinfield though, it’s no coincidence Great Britain and Leeds have both been crap when he’s been a major figure

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Quote: krisleeds "Still 2 wingers short.

Handley is still an utter liability and cannot tackle for toffee.'"


I have respect for everyone that pulls on a shirt.....

However, Handley has no bottle whatsoever, and shouldn't be anywhere near the first team.

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Quote: Biff Tannen "For the love of god agar go....'"
As we used to say at Hull.

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Hull FC pack verses Ikea Flat Pack. That’s before I start on the cart horse threequarters.

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Quote: barton baird "As we used to say at Hull.'"

And about radford.

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Quote: Seth "And about radford.'"


Only a minority, 100% wanted Agar out of Hull, terrrible coach, can't think of anything positive about his time at Hull when he was appointted head team coach, we have had up and downs with Radford, but it's not even in the same ball park. Amazed he keeps getting jobs.

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Quote: KingRoss11 "Until you get rid of Sinfield and Agar you’ve not got a chance, mainly Sinfield though, it’s no coincidence Great Britain and Leeds have both been crap when he’s been a major figure'"

Sinfield has resigned from the GB/ England job . As for Leeds decline its cyclical and just like when the last successful era began and got better ,after the 80s and 90s it was worth waiting for .Meanwhile we will continue to enjoy TGG

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I think it is true to say there is some knee jerk reactions, I don’t think we were quite as bad as some say. Equally it also true to say there is posters with head in the sand, just forever the optimist, and still can’t seem to grasp the issues we have.

We do look like we can be better than the last couple years, but then again that is hardly anything to crow about either. We should be far better than that, even in a short period, but this club is full of arrogance and ignorance to problems of its own making.

There is no doubt we have some very poor value for money players in that squad, and players simply not good enough. The noises out of the club show no confidence that they even in the slightest believe that.

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Quote: Seth "And about radford.'"

Radford any day of the week over Agar. Always someone who wants a coach out. Radders has assembled a good squad, and at least we put the ball about, unlike Agar`s 5 drive and a kick era. We were truly awful. Can not think of another time when 100% of fans wanted a coach out. Been waved a cheerful goodbye by all the clubs he went to after Hull.

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Observations from the south stand yesterday .

Far too many players not up to the required standard .

Robert Lui , who are they trying to kid ?

Liam Sutcliffe ? Why is he still at the club ? He surely has some compromising photos of the Headingley hierarchy , a championship player in super League clothing , but hey , he has a cuddly nickname and is " one of our own " .

A true measure of how far Leeds have fallen is how many of the team would get a game at Saints , Wigan or Wire ??

P.s Where is Crosby ? He can't still be injured surely .

Bottom Six club all day long . Sadly .

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It`s baffling that some pundits actually rate Agar as a decent coach.
There`s nothing I`ve seen of his coaching that says he is anything other than a bottom 4 coach in this league and that`s pushing it..
Sinfield I`ve said for a while is out of his depth and now he brings in another mate in JJB.
Hull have some very exciting players in that team and are a pleasure to watch.
Gale and Prior the only positives followed by Smith.
I don`t mind Newman and Walker but they need some quality around them to improve which they don`t have.
Poor team selection especially on the bench where Donaldson had to do the work of a prop.
Sutcliffe needs to put on a few stones and he can play prop as I think that`s the only position they haven`t tried him in.
He`s not good enough Kev even though he`s your mate.
Two big forwards and a winger needed still.
Let`s see where we are at next week against an average Giants team as Hull are a different class to us.

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A very disappointing day, although I thought Hull were very good. Their metres after contact appeared to be a massive difference between the two sides
We desperately need go forward, Ava can help provide this and hopefully Crosby gets fit and can contribute. I would be tempted to give Holroyd a go, especially if Ava is not fit. It is a tough job for a young player but it would be good to see him get a run of games at this level. I thought Prior was one of the few positives, he looks to have a good engine to say he is getting towards the end of his career.

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There's nothing knee jerk about seeing the same weakness' we have seen for the last 2 seasons.
Those of us who dared question Sir Kev & never rated Agar are still way off being proved wrong.
As for "Merrin wont leave until we have a very good replacement" pmsl straight out of the GH pr BS.
This squad is at the very least 2 big quality fwds & a quality winger from the starting 13 to be competitive.
If we are serious about a top 4 challenge again then the Coaching setup needs dismantling & a proper DOR appointing if we're going down that route.

Prior was good yesterday but he did fatigue which wasnt a surprise , Gale will get better & i thought Cam Smith was very good & has be our 13 going forward.

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