Correct, the formula you need is a good coach, good crowds and a motivated team littered with Internationals, all of which we have here in Hull.

I do agree in somewhat your saying (I've only been to two games this season) but from those two games Horne has improve seem to have alil kicking game going, Seymour is making the different.

We're never had a settled 6 7 partnership since cooke and horne in 2006, i do think we need another half back but something good is happening and without writing this season off already i can't wait for next season

Sorry have i missed where you've become this "Big Club" ,challenging for all these finals and taken the SL by storm??
Like i replied to other-one great signing but still a long long way off from where AP said you would/should or will be or whatever "promise" he made when he took over and again i doubt very much GH is quivering because Ull have won the race and signed Ellis as good as he is.
I love this hatred for GH's mrs wasn't she involved in the Gateshead merger that saved your lot from extinction and also prominent on the board when you won the CC in 05 and made the GF?

Just what Leeds have been missing - advice from Hull on how to put to together a successful winning team...you do know what that row of stars in the page header are for don't you

Seems Ellis has signed knowing he will be laid up for a stretch at some point.

That's what the glamour signings, who are in their 30's, usually do at Hull.

Just because Hull have come out and said he's on a reasonable wage and he had more lucrative offers doesn't make it true. They are hardly likely to come out and say "we offered him way more than anyone else and he's taken a big chunk out of are salary cap".......time will tell who else they sign just how much salary cap space they have left.

Good luck to Gareth.

I would have thought he would have liked another game in the World Club Challenge though.

You're jealous.

Looks like someone isn't happy that not all Leeds fans think Ellis will make them world beaters.

Yesterday's man. They're welcome to him ....

Bring on Bradley and Stevie ...and all the other ' kids '

Bailey will take care of Ellie

Nope not jealous but if Tony Smith came out and said his Wire team are under the salary cap would you believe what came out of his mouth also?

meh, cant say I'm suicidal that he's chosen not to return to the World Champions. To achieve the sort of salary Ellis was after would have seriously compromised the growth of the squad over the next couple of years. We seem to have done ok since he went and I'm sure well do ok now he's not coming back.

I suspect he was offered bigger money by Wire or Wigan but his plans were based on a return to wetherby so Hull was the next highest offer. This shows good intent from pearson but a second rower (however good) doesn't turn you from also rans into realistic title challengers. They desperately need a pair of quality half backs if they are to progress and a big chunk of salary cap on Ellis isn't going to make that any easier.

I think symour is a decent scrum half, if I was a hull fan I would be wanting a decent centre and replace Horne at stand off

Terrible News that the Codheads have signed Ellis

Ellis is not the player to turn a Hull from wanna be's to contenders