The dissapointing thing with the Handley chance is that he didn't have go. If Hoy had have got his hands on him he could have looked to pass out of the tackle and leave Austin clear. It could well have gone wrong, but wouldn't have looked so amateurish. While Ash might be the quickest at Leeds I doubt he finishes in the top six in a sprint for fastest in the league. That in itself is a problem.

Big respect to anyone who does go. 5hr round trip for Saints love in and they’ll probably put 50 on us…….

Ash is fast, not sure why leeds fans try to talk down their players constantly.

He made a right porridge of that chance, he should have taken him on but he wont be the first or last winger to do it, even those listed above.

Not trying to talk him down. He is fast and he's a very solid winger. My point was around our general lack of pace. Three clean breaks on Friday but our support players struggle to get in the frame in order to convert into tries. If you hark back to the glory days and put Burrow, McGuire and Webb on the pitch on Friday, we finish those chances. Probably only something that can be fixed by recruitment.

I don`t think Handley gets past the full back as he looks to have it covered.
If he passes to Austin he too is already closed down.
The two biggest errors ironically coming from our best 2 players on the night was Smith not finding one of what 3 Leeds players supporting the break and Macdonald trying to pass when the Hull players were all over him which eventually resulted in the winning try.

Yeah Smith messed that up imo he should have taken the tackle id have hull odds on to make a professional foul holding him down.

He was probably our MOM though and he played most of the game second row. I can see Smith starting him there on Friday if Bentley isn’t fit

We’ll take 500 tops, we never seem to travel to Saints im great numbers - im 50/50 whether to go

Welsby should be out against us, but he won’t

You’ll go. You fly the beacon for us all! We’ll be with you in spirit ….

I didn’t think it was that bad, but if we’re still on the clamp down it should be a couple of games. As you say, it won’t be.

Both feet off the ground clear red card

No prob with no red providing that bar is set consistently.