The Hurrell situation is all a bit weird IMO.

He\s repeatedly said he wanted to stay, then even after declining the contract offer has still said he would have preferred to have stayed and it's not how he wanted his time with Leeds to end.

I would imagine we only offered him a one year deal (same as Martin) and Saints offered him two. His partner seems a really headstrong women, wonder if she had any influence in the decision (pure speculation on my point and don't mean any disrespect in it).

I wonder wether Tolouse would have been a good option for him aswell had he known they would be promoted?

Saints will spin everything the way they want it to be read.

They are the RFL's darlings after all.

Hurrell spent most of his time injured and when he played his defence was a total liability.

GREAT in his first season but quickly worked out (like Parcell, Cuthbertson etc)

If anyone pays him anything close to marquee nowadays, they are absolutely nuts. Newman is a country mile better, as is Broadbent.

I think that's just Saints trying to spin what appears to be a somewhat unpopular signing. The two vs one year deal is decisive. And if they want to stick him in the second row good luck to them.

Has Hurrell officially been confirmed by Saints yet?

No but I suspect Hurrell requested for it not to be announced until his Leeds contract actually expires (is that 1st Nov?)

Thats pure speculation mind!

Thing is, nothing says "we love you and want you to stay" more than a massive salary cut. When someone feels rejected they might well choose any other option.

I suspect it may well have been a 2-year versus 1-year situation, I doubt we'll have wanted to tie up the OS spot on a player with his injury record.

I've seen a few people talk about Konrad in the second row - he's absolutely not a back rower IMO. His ball security is a problem and his fitness would struggle I think. He can put a big hit on in D but you need to be precise and consistent in the pack. I just don't see it working. For different reasons, Liam Sutcliffe is never a back rower either.

Having said all this we'll be crying if Konnie runs through us next year off the back of a better structured and balanced side, on his day he is a real handful.

Leeds found Hurrell's true role - impact second row forward as close to the middle as possible - sadly it was two years too late

Didn't Hurrell get Dream Team selection at centre in his first season?

To be fair the only player the club has let go that I'm not sure about in retrospect was Paul McShane. Really can't think of many others, we tend to get it right.

Don't recall him having a decent game in the second row.

First two seasons i think he made the Dream team

I don’t even recall him playing there.

It is a real shame for both Konrad and Callum. Both players might have expected a long and successful career at Leeds had injuries/stuff been different.