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| I would love to know how your salary cap is spread between your squad of players. I thought during the very first game of the season that your squad felt somewhat imbalanced and I still think that now.
There were rumours at one stage that players were unhappy with the disparity in salaries - could that be the cause of some of the attitude problems we're seeing at the minute?
Tui seems to be copping the most flak from the supporters but Merrin has been a letdown for me and he had another poor game again last night. Conceding penalties for dissent is criminal but to come from a player of his stature, someone who should be guiding the youngsters, is really disappointing.
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| Sinfield knows a lot more than hes letting on too,when asked how did such a well run club descend to this? He replied not for me to say.
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| Quote christopher="christopher"Again what do you expect him to say, ‘we don’t think Agar can do the job so we need someone ASAP’ that would be a ridiculous message to Agar who wether we quickly get a coach or not will be coaching them fir a bit.
Do you really think the only communication he has had with job applicants is through a pre match interview on sky?'"
I expect a matter of urgency in sorting the mess out he helped create.
we should have a Coach by now simple as that and all he had to say was that we are interviewing candidates or we've created a short list anything to show that we are making some sort of progress not the dull rudderless "we are 100%" behind Agar who isn't good enough to coach our u15's.
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| Quote RHINO-MARK="RHINO-MARK"I expect a matter of urgency in sorting the mess out he helped create.
we should have a Coach by now simple as that and all he had to say was that we are interviewing candidates or we've created a short list anything to show that we are making some sort of progress not the dull rudderless "we are 100%" behind Agar who isn't good enough to coach our u15's.'"
It’s not ‘as simple as that’ though is it, you think we should have rushed through interviewing and appointing a head coach within two weeks?
We have no idea who the club has or hasn’t spoken to, and the management are totally right giving Agar 100% support until the new coach is found
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| Quote christopher="christopher"Again what do you expect him to say, ‘we don’t think Agar can do the job so we need someone ASAP’ that would be a ridiculous message to Agar who wether we quickly get a coach or not will be coaching them fir a bit.
Do you really think the only communication he has had with job applicants is through a pre match interview on sky?'"
What I've inferred (and it is just that) from Agar's comments in the last two weeks is that he doesn't even want the job long-term and that he was happy doing the role he was originally here to do.
I get the impression he'd be delighted to hear Sinfield say "we've got several interviews lined up next week".
Sinfield is pretty media-savvy by typical RL standards but that interview was poor from him. He took far too much issue with some predictable, obvious but completely fair lines of questioning from Carney that he really should have been able to prepare for and bat away. He didn't come across well at all.
He was clearly frustrated, clearly didn't want to be there and if it was an attempt by Sinfield / Hetherington to stage-manage and put a veneer on the crisis, it backfired massively.
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| Recruitment has been poor since the start of the decade. Winning two GF's from 5th when our greats stepped up and one single excellent 2015 season can easily mask over these shortcomings but the warning signs have been there for many a year.
If there are bad eggs get rid asap. I would rather see a team full of kids fighting for the badge and getting beat over a bunch of whingers happy to just pick up their pay check and get humiliated every week in the pathetic manor they are right now.
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| Quote Nothus="Nothus"I would love to know how your salary cap is spread between your squad of players. I thought during the very first game of the season that your squad felt somewhat imbalanced and I still think that now.
There were rumours at one stage that players were unhappy with the disparity in salaries - could that be the cause of some of the attitude problems we're seeing at the minute?
Tui seems to be copping the most flak from the supporters but Merrin has been a letdown for me and he had another poor game again last night. Conceding penalties for dissent is criminal but to come from a player of his stature, someone who should be guiding the youngsters, is really disappointing.'"
I've got no real issue with Merrin - he's trying to carry a very poor pack.
I think the crux of the issue is that there are too many players that represent poor value for what they're on today that, when their contracts were signed years ago, probably didn't represent as-bad value. That's the risk with long-term contracts.
Players like Luke Briscoe - and England international when he joined the club, will be on a decent amount. I don't think that anyone will argue that he is currently representing value for money.
Most of the overseas players will be on decent money. You have to pay to get them here and given that even fringe players and your average Bartercard Cup squad-fillers can earn more than Super League players, it stands to reason that Lolohea, Peteru, Cuthbertson and Parcell are on decent whack. Cuthbertson and Parcell were both outstanding in their first seasons - nobody would question their value on the cap but today? Different story.
Add that up across the squad and throw in few other examples where that critique fits and I think you have your answer. This isn't so much about what Hurrell and Merrin earn (and if what they earn is causing friction, I'd invite any player who thinks they're being under-paid for their efforts this year to put their hand-up and make their case). The issue for me is that, £ for £, the club isn't getting value from its salary structure that other clubs are (Wakefield and Salford are fantastic examples of that). A player making the sort of contribution that some of our likely decent-earners have made this year would be on three-fifths of nack-all at most other clubs.
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| I have been one of the clubs most ardent critics over the years but at the moment I am not in a doom loop about the current position.
The team contains the nucleus of another potentially very good team: Walker, Handley, Newman, Mclennan, Oldeski, Trout, Smith, Ward, Holroyd add to that the likes of Spence and Mustapha and things look solid for the future. Of the current squad Watkins must improve, Merrin I would keep, Parcell possibly, Hurrell makes too many basic errors, Ava looks ok.
Leeds are very unlikely to go down this year so I would be blooding these youngsters I cannot see the benefit of JJB over Holroyd or Singleton over Trout etc.
This looks far worse than it is
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| Hasn`t Merrin already been sin binned twice this season for dissent? Poor in my eyes, Leeds should be looking to him as one of if not the leader of the team and that is just poor imo.
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| Quote homme vaste="homme vaste"Hasn`t Merrin already been sin binned twice this season for dissent? Poor in my eyes, Leeds should be looking to him as one of if not the leader of the team and that is just poor imo.'"
Merrin’s playing frustrated because there isn’t enough quality around him, and he’s not a “carry the pack” kind of player. He’s a glue player who fills in gaps and links well. It’s painful to watch. He’s a good player, but I still don’t think he was the right player for Leeds under marquee.
Hurrell - well he’ll win you and game and then lose you a game, but he’s a great character and would look much better if he wasn’t targeted as just about Leeds’ only strike player. Shut him down and you’ve pretty much beaten us.
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| Yes we are in crisis, and having a number of coaches over the last twelve months has not helped matters. We have had McDermott, Lowes, Sinfield to a point, Furner and now Agar. How many of these coaches have tried putting their print on this team. Like GH said last night it takes time to implement change, well it maybe time to allow Agar the time to try and give us some stability until the end of the season when we can make the necessary changes. All these coaches over twelve months cannot be good for the team. Although this does not excuse the players from putting in a shift, it does not help them with everything else that is going on in the team. Maybe now is the time for a little stability and lets see what happens over the next few weeks.
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| How many more games can we afford to give Watkins the chance to get his confidence/fitness back ?, looking from distance at the Cas game, he wasn't just a yard off the pace but several, he's either unable or afraid to put his foot down on the accelerator and motor off, likewise his tackling, he's backing out waiting for others to arrive first or just unable to get to the attacker, scared of injury or just too unfit? As for the Captaincy is he afraid to vent and open his mouth or has he just no clue as to what to say to get the players around him to respond?
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