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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"Yes, and I do not know if he was told to not tackle, so not sure what you are saying there. But in response to me saying why the hell did he not jump, the response was he was told not to at half time and just go for the player attacking.'"
Whatever his instructions and however badly he played neither Briscoe nor Mac were the reasons for the second half one way traffic. The big Hull pack were just too dominant and Sneyd was given the time and field position to pin us down on our line which sapped our energy.
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| so why didn't he change things? bring Lilly on to give us a kicking game to get some position. drop keinhorst to wing, moon to centre and Briscoe off?
the direction comes from the coach. if things change mid game he must adapt. he didn't. he mistake as much blame as anyone. only it's never his fault is it?
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| I'd take Tom back, there's still a class player in there but clearly lacking confidence. Had a shocker yesterday but received no help at all.
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| he's finished pal. shoulders are shot.confidence is shot. he got no help but dropped some easy takes.
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| Quote easthullwesty="easthullwesty"I'd take Tom back, there's still a class player in there but clearly lacking confidence. Had a shocker yesterday but received no help at all.'" )
You can have him back mate, he's shot to pieces for whatever reason. He is a shadow of the player that left Hull, and one of the main reasons we signed him, his returning of the ball out of defence, has become another weak part of his game. Sometimes the game evolves to the detriment of certain players, Briscoe's lack of height and aerial ability are now being highlighted on a regular basis. As outside backs become taller and more muscular, and the game becomes more and more about repeat sets and a kick to the perceived "weak point", the game's up for Tom.
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| I have to disagree with Leeds owl here. Briscoe definitely looks finished in terms of catching a ball, that there is no argument. But his other play is excellent. Not enough to warrant excusing the weakness, but excellent all the same.
Also I think the time of the bigger backs is coming to an end, certainly for wingers. The best couple of wingers in the NRL now are even smaller players in terms of their peers. The better wingers in Super League are the same way. Speed and agility is becoming more of a necessity.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"I have to disagree with Leeds owl here. Briscoe definitely looks finished in terms of catching a ball, that there is no argument. But his other play is excellent. Not enough to warrant excusing the weakness, but excellent all the same.
Also I think the time of the bigger backs is coming to an end, certainly for wingers. The best couple of wingers in the NRL now are even smaller players in terms of their peers. The better wingers in Super League are the same way. Speed and agility is becoming more of a necessity.'"
With regard to Briscoe, I'm on the same page.
As far as wingers go generally, there is a place in the game for all shapes and sizes; however, speed, agility, catching and jumping are the essentials to be a world class player. Having said that, was not always the case?
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| Not so sure about him being told not to jump for high balls in second half, but if so, surely he was told to ensure the catcher was tackled... on a few occasions he just stood there and did not even attempt to lay a finger on the opposion winger!!
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"I have to disagree with Leeds owl here. Briscoe definitely looks finished in terms of catching a ball, that there is no argument. But his other play is excellent. Not enough to warrant excusing the weakness, but excellent all the same.
Also I think the time of the bigger backs is coming to an end, certainly for wingers. The best couple of wingers in the NRL now are even smaller players in terms of their peers. The better wingers in Super League are the same way. Speed and agility is becoming more of a necessity.'"
My worry with Briscoe is not just his lack of height or competitive qualities in the air, it's his general dexterity. He has dropped plenty of kicks unchallenged this season, and seems to drop more and more ball coming out of defence. Would you pick him against Wigan next week, and do you think he will be picked ?
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| should he be picked? no
will he get picked? quite possibly
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| He's finished as a winger. He will always get exposed against taller wingers, but the most worrying thing for me is that he's lost a yard or two of pace. If you're not a big winger you need to at least have pace to provide a running threat. To me, I think he needs to be moved into the centres (not necessarily at Leeds btw). If he stays on the wing he will continue to be exposed. I feel sorry for him in a way, we've not really got any viable alternative, Handley is no better, and Walker and Golding would still have the issue of being too short and would lack the physicality when bringing the ball back, but at least they'd offer some kind of running threat.
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| had walker been on the bench, we could have taken Briscoe off (again) and moved Golding to the Wing
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