Leeds United beat you to it by about 10 years mate, and they went down twice!

So is it the players or the coach who's not good enough, at Warrington?

That's what I've been saying! Surely it's a Huddersfield as they have also won nowt for years.

Next week is massive for Saints vs Warrington, winner could kickstart their year, loser really left in trouble.

Next 3 for Wire are Saints (a) Hull & Leeds (h). Really need to win 2 of those 3 imo otherwise Top 4 is looking gone with so many losses with two thirds of the season still to play including away trips to Wigan, Cas, Hull.

To be in the Top 8 after 23 Rounds has been 20 points both seasons, so looking at 10 wins from 18 remaining which is still quite achievable for them but they need to get a move on soon.

You wouldn't have thought so, judging by their board. Ouch.

I'd rather have our 'crap' coach and 3 from 5 than a 'decent coach' and 0/5.

Warrington could do a lot worse than get McDermott in for a couple of years next season. The conditions over there look perfect for him, Brown and Gidley are excellent organisers who he could trust to manage the attack whilst he focuses on getting the team willing to die for each other.

Warrington were really bad. Look absolutely devoid of confidence and poise, dont look fit, swing wildly from one up nothing plays to attempting wonder offloads.

Their season is pretty much over but they will walk through the 8s.

0 from 6 now, even we had managed two wins at this point. You'd have to fancy Hull to beat them next week which would leave us going there looking to leave them facing an 0-8 record

Surely their top 4 hopes are gone.

Average backs, light weight pack, they're a shambles at the moment, and in dire need of players back.

Not sure who they're missing who would make too much of a difference except Currie and he won't be back for months yet. At first they lost some close games, now the scorelines are looking really bad and large margins, very much like what happened to us as the confidence drained out more and more each passing week.

Warrington have some very average three quarters and their usual go forward from the pack is not happening right now which is leaving them badly exposed. Brown hasn't as yet added the impact he looked like he was going to against Brisbane too which is a big blow for them.

The top 4 is gone for sure now and the question is will they make the 8? I think they will still scrape it but have to turn the corner pretty soon.