Make hay whilst the sun shines aye Billy Boy

Fair play I can't grudge you your time in the sun

. After all you must have had to endure your own personal Hell last season

8th from 8th could be the end of the poor soul.

Bet he spent a small fortune voting for Andy Murray in SPOTY.

After last seasons complaints from fans that the teams starting the Super 8's in 7th & 8th had no realistic chance of making the top 4.....if we're 8th after 23 rounds and somehow make it up to 4th and win the playoffs the guy will wet his pants in outrage.....well he will after several months absence, strangely coinciding with tvoc

If Leeds are 8th after 23 rounds nobody will be wetting their pants - they will not not make the play offs from 8th.

You can tell you are recent poster - your idea that TVOC and Jeff are the same person doesn't stack up especially to those of us who were here in the Rivals days

Although highly unlikely, we only have one sample season to go off.If there is only a couple of points between 4th and 8th at the break away this time which is possible if teams continue to take unexpected points off of each other and WBSLR like Widnes are still up there, then we could see it happen.And lets not forget nobody would really have believed winning it from outside the 4 of the old format was possible until we did it twice on the bounce! This comment could come back to haunt you in October

Youll need about 40 points to make top 4, meaning you can afford to loose about 10 games.
If we look at it like that there is no reason to panic yet

I will take my chances on that one - the only way that could happen is if one of the big 4 finished 8th - only Leeds even remotely likely. Given everyone on here's confidence that a full strength side is match for anyone that is very unlikely. There is more chance of them missing the 8 than winning it from eighth IMO.

I agree, and in this SL which is a poor standard on the whole right now, Leeds don't have to improve a great deal to start picking up results from here especially as players return and the fixtures look a lot easier on paper.I would still be quite surprised if Leeds finished below 5th at the split.

Galloway & Ferres are costing us too many penalties. This needs addressing or drop them. When are we going to blood the young forwards? We appear to be the only team in the league not bring anyone through in that area.

Ward, Singleton, Baldwinson, Walters, keinhorst all lads who came through our academy system recently and in the 25 man squad. Mullalley is also still a young raw front row, you have to strike the balance between youth and experience but i don't see an issue with the young forwards getting blocked if they have the ability they will get through at Leeds imo.