Not at Harlequins he wasn't. Whereas the Leeds players were winning them consistent;y before he arrived.

Take it you're not a Brian mac fan then?

Anyways I actually think our current team has peaked, I don't think we will make the GF this year or the next, I'm fact it will be a very interesting few years as the old guard makes way for the new.

.....not least making better use of the bench: Kirke's selection continues to baffle and the non use of Singleton and Sutcliffe until late in the game is hard to fathom.

Sinfield at DH looks far more dangerous:

have faith in Sutcliffe to take over more last tackle plays with an alternating Burrow jumping in at DH on an irregular basis.

Warrington made Leeds look like an ageing tired side especially in the third quarter. As soon as the upped the tempo we were unable to cope. The forwards that were so dominant last week were completely dominated and I include JP in that.

McDermott got his selection wrong - he should not be starting JP and Kylie he should be starting Singleton and JP with Kylie as first interchange. The fact Kirke got more game time than Singleton was a huge error.

Burrow was good in the first quarter but his influence faded badly and his propensity to throw forward passes is an ongoing problem. Having said that he had more impact than either McGuire or Sinfield.

Too many forwards had no impact JJB, Delanney, Bailey, Kylie, Kirke, you simply cannot carry that number of players against a good side.

It will be a massive ask to come back from this - Saints are on roll and they are peaking at the right time. Team selection and the correct rotation will be crucial if we are not to suffer a similar humiliation to what occurred at Warrington

Despite one or two decisions going against us we were comfortably second best for most of the game. It will take a big improvement in performance to win next week but write this team off at your peril.
I agree dropping Singleton to the bench for Bailey was harsh but yesterday was the last chance to get Bailey some minutes before we are into do or die. The major worry for me is the obvious lack of fitness of some key players. Delaney for one is really struggling.
Next week against saints should be a cracker. Keep the faith.

More gate receipts and TV money. Enhanced match fitness for the semis. Warrington now programmed to underestimate us.

Perhaps, sometimes, winning isn't the cleverest thing to do?

Perhaps you are the most gullible, naive poster I have ever seen on the boards?

Serious question, how old are you? Below 18?

Old enough to spell, to master basic sentence structure and the rules of grammar, and to recognise personal insult isn't a valid form of argument. You?

Yet not old enough to have a sense of realism yet, hence why the second question was an honest question. You act like you have only been watching since around the 2009 mark, that was why it was asked.

But I am pretty sure, in fact almost 100%, that you are the alter ego of another poster on here who doesn't post anything close to what he used to. Surprised others haven't cottoned on.

I never expect a team to go out and lose but there certainly didnt seem the attitude that there was last week. The intensity wasnt there.

I'm not looking to bring myself down to your level with a playground spat. I know is all I will say.