If I had meant carries I would have stated carries. Our top 2 metre makers are also our top 2 for carries no suprises there. Players can make metres in different ways ... for fullbacks and wingers they get some easy metres while the forwards have to graft to get them. But we still need the forwards to make those hard metres each game.

How we are at the minute, way too soft down the middle. If we lose the ruck early doors it could be a long night.

Clarkson needs a big game.

We do. And also notible that those same two players, are also our top error makers and penalty conceeders. But of course that goes over your head I presume, even though you spoke about defence?

Two players increasing their carries by 3 per game would make the additional yardage that JJB does in a game. Your point said we would miss it, which is correct, but easily sorted by sharing workload. Whether that sorts defence also, I wouldn't give any guarantees on.

He was down as missing 7 tackles against Widnes. Not good enough, especially for someone who only really brings solid defence to the table. As you say, big game for him as he's currently been leapfrogged by Singleton and Moore in squad forward status when others are back fit.

Tonight is more about the youngsters gaining more experience than the result imo.
As a team we can go there with no pressure on us and give the young lads the freedom to express themselves.

What does go right over my head is the guff you keep spouting. For your information the following are our top error makers:
Hall and Sinfield top our error makers with 27 each followed by Mags (20), Watkins (16), Clarkson (15), Ablett (15, Burrow (15) and Moon (13) before we get to JJB in 9th place with 11 errors and JP in 16th place with just 9.

It is to be expected that our top tackling and carrying grafters will feature high in the penalty count with JP (14) Ablett (13), JJB(12), and Sinfield (11) as our top 4. If other players were as committed they too would move up the penalty charts.



So which 2 players will be doing this simple task then? and will they also be stepping up the number of tackles, kick chases and carries at the same time?

As usual you can not see the wood for the trees. This goes along with your previous theories of measuring number of carries for an hooker.

Comparing halfbacks with forwards is ridiculous for errors, considering how many times their hands are on the ball.

The term errors, is just seemingly way above you. Do missed tackles not count as errors?

I maintain what I put above regarding errors.





Did I not say in the post you quoted "Whether that sorts defence also, I wouldn't give any guarantees on"? reason for that. As for players doing that simple task, look at your stats you seem so reliant on them. You don't believe that two players couldn't do another couple of carries per game but you praise one player for doing it alone? Considering all the regular forwards but Bailey average more meters per carry than JJB, wouldn't is suggest it is a lot easier to do than you make out?

I would expect us to line up something like this:

1. Zak Hardaker
2. Ben Jones Bishop
3. Kallum Watkins
4. Joel Moon
5. Ryan Hall
6. Liam Sutcliffe
7. Rob Burrow
8. Richard Moore
9. Paul McShane
10. Jamie Peacock
11. Chris Clarkson
12. Carl Ablett
13. Brad Singleton

14. Mitch Achurch
15. Ian Kirke
16. Jimmy Keinhorst
17. Alex Foster

Gotcha, when you're caught out being wrong, it's best just to admit it.

Point it out, and I'll gladly admit it. I have no worries to do that. But what I said is clear enough and backed up.

I think we do have a chance of doing something if the 'supporting cast' of forwards can step up. We know what Peacock can do and its good to have Ablett back in the forwards and Singleton is performing well. Its the group of Clarkson/Kirke/Achurch/Moore that need to suitably contribute. I'm not sure if Keinhorst & Foster will get much time but hopefully add decent cameos too.

Same 17 as last week i'm guessing to keep the consistency there, with the younger and out of position players being familiar with their roles and the players they are working with.

If we can hold them out the first 15/20 mins and be level or better at half time, Warrington may start to panic a little if they are 'expecting' to win this from the off. If we concede 2/3 early tries, I don't think we'll come from behind to win it.