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| Quote Damo-Leeds="Damo-Leeds"There's two sides to every story as Andy Gilder has already alluded to.
Yes Wigan looked after Gareth Hock when he hit rock bottom in his career but it's not like he could really go anywhere else. Having grown up in the town, Wigan is all that Gareth knows so what he needed to get through those hard times with the help of family and friends. Well they got him through the hard times and he's since repaid them by playing some good rugby. However by the looks of things Wigan have got greedy as a club and it's now either their way or the highway.
This would never happen at Leeds Rhinos where Greg Eastwood was free to come and go when he wanted without any fuss. Chev Walker also had a hard time which Leeds Rhinos helped him through. Did Chev get greedy and go to Rugby Union?
There's more to this than what meets the eye!'"
Bad example. Leeds enforced Iestyn Harris' contractual obligations with some vigour.
What's the problem with Wigan's actions? They hold his contract, he refuses to fulfill it, they're legally entitled to act as they have.
Though I agree the public statement seems a little petty and if I were Widnes, with whom they have an "excellent" relationship apparently, I'd be insulted that they're not considered one of Wigan's "rivals". True or not 9and it is) it's still insulting and unnecessary to a fellow league club to say so publicly.
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| Quote Clearwing="Clearwing"I'd be surprised if Tony Smith was interested in disrupting what is already a pretty fine team. And wasn't Hock found guilty of gouging a wire player a year or two back?'"
McDermott smashed 3 Leeds players (including Jimmy Lowes) during his playing days for Bradford and we took him on.
I don`t think that his gouging would deter Tony Smith trying to sign him.
If there is more to all this than meets the eye pardon the gouging pun and he failed another test.
Then Wigan are right to get rid and not be held to ransom by someone who seems intent on ruining his career.
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| Quote chapylad="chapylad"McDermott smashed 3 Leeds players (including Jimmy Lowes) during his playing days for Bradford and we took him on.
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Side issue, but Jimmy Lowes was on the Bradford side that afternoon, and was at acting-half just before the incident. Brian did smack Barrie Mac though (after Newton and Gibson).
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| legendary biff by brian
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| Legendary?
Brian McDermott unloaded his ex-Royal marine finest on an 18 year-old youngster and a winger - neither hit the deck not even the poop deck.
Brainless act which could have cost him a spot at Wembley albeit instigated by a classic Newton sly knee in the ribs.
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| Quote G1="G1"Bad example. Leeds enforced Iestyn Harris' contractual obligations with some vigour.
What's the problem with Wigan's actions? They hold his contract, he refuses to fulfill it, they're legally entitled to act as they have.
Though I agree the public statement seems a little petty and if I were Widnes, with whom they have an "excellent" relationship apparently, I'd be insulted that they're not considered one of Wigan's "rivals". True or not 9and it is) it's still insulting and unnecessary to a fellow league club to say so publicly.'"
Reguardless Harris ended up playing for his desired club at the time and even help this team defeat Leeds in the 2005 Grand Final. Hock isn't going to get that option this year.
Legally right in the name of the law by the looks of things but not necessarily morally right.
I agree that the mocking of Widnes is a disgrace and I just hope that been away from a toxic club will do Gareths game a world of good!
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| Quote Damo-Leeds="Damo-Leeds"Reguardless Harris ended up playing for his desired club at the time and even help this team defeat Leeds in the 2005 Grand Final. Hock isn't going to get that option this year.
Legally right in the name of the law by the looks of things but not necessarily morally right.
I agree that the mocking of Widnes is a disgrace and I just hope that been away from a toxic club will do Gareths game a world of good!'"
Morally right?!
Wigan stood by Hock during his drugs ban
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| Quote Lawrie L="Lawrie L"Wigan stood by Hock during his drugs ban'"
It was in Wigan's best interest to stand by Hock and he's more than paid off this interest by playing well for them since his ban was over.
Wigan are still looking after their own interests to this day by not allowing Gareth Hock sign for his preferred club. If there's any way that could send Gareth spiraling back into bad habits then this is it. Hopefully Widnes will look after him until things get sorted out.
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| Quote Damo-Leeds="Damo-Leeds"It was in Wigan's best interest to stand by Hock and he's more than paid off this interest by playing well for them since his ban was over.
Wigan are still looking after their own interests to this day by not allowing Gareth Hock sign for his preferred club. If there's any way that could send Gareth spiraling back into bad habits then this is it. Hopefully Widnes will look after him until things get sorted out.'"
Why was it in Wigan's best interest?
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| Quote Lawrie L="Lawrie L"Why was it in Wigan's best interest?'"
Wigan wanted to look like a cuddly and sympathetic club that doesn't cast players out in the cold when things go wrong. Even if Hock came back a terrible player it would have been a great PR stunt to show that Wigan isn't an evil club like some people would have them
In reality Wigan saw Hocks two year ban as collateral damage because they knew that they'll be getting a good player back once this ban was over.
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| I'd rather have Westwood any day 
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| Quote nantwichexile="nantwichexile"I'd rather have Westwood any day
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.....or Kirke  (wish [ihe[/i would develop a [idark side[/i)
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