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| Quote: El Diablo "Mr Eve has some funny notions of identity, which are wildly different for postcode tested RL supporting than for representing countries other than that of your birth.
Consistency is overrated anyway.
For what it's worth, I think Burrow will play.'"
I have no issue with players representing their chosen place of qualified domicile as opposed to having to represent some place as a consequence of a random accident of being born there through no choice of their own.
It ain't Middleton Rhinos fault he is domiciled in Middleton unless he chose to be domiciled there, but either way, he is free to choose which club or bandwagon to support.
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| Quote: G1 "In fairness, after today's announcement Hunslet have, effectively, become the Rhinos Academy team anyway.
A decision that will, I am sure, cause an outrage amongst their 78 fans.'"
What's new?
The Hunslet area has been the de facto Leeds academy for as long as I can recall.
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| I only hope this latest tie-up will be as beneficial to Leeds as all those between the CEO and various clubs in the NRL, France, Wales, Cumbria, the South-West and Norfolk.
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| [iThere are exceptions of course which override factors like domicile and place of birth. Anyone with Rhino in their username automatically fails the postcode test. Anyone with Loiner in their username automatically passes the postcode test.[/i
Where does that leave me???????????
Can I still shout for the Rhinos at Wembley?????
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| Quote: xparksider "Where does that leave me???????????
Can I still shout for the Rhinos at Wembley?????'"
Since Mother Benson's End no longer exists for a shouting sesh, feel free to shout for the Rhinos at Wembley instead.
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| Quote: William Eve "I have no issue with players representing their chosen place of qualified domicile as opposed to having to represent some place as a consequence of a random accident of being born there through no choice of their own.
It ain't Middleton Rhinos fault he is domiciled in Middleton unless he chose to be domiciled there, but either way, he is free to choose which club or bandwagon to support.'"
You don't think the way people identify with a place is more complicated than postcodes and as-the-crow-flies distance then?
For example, I was born and raised in Horsforth. I think Bramley might actually have been nearer to me (I'm not that sure, might need to get the ruler out) than Leeds. But here's the thing. If you asked me where I was from, I'd say "Leeds" and would never in a month of Sundays say "Bramley." Because I'm not from Bramley. I am from Leeds though.
Now, I don't know how people in Miggy tend to view Hunslet, but I don't find it inconceivable that a similar effect is in operation. Would somebody who regards themselves as being from Leeds really want to pin their colours to the mast of a neighbouring borough they have no affilinity with just because it's a bit nearer? I don't think I would.
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| Quote: El Diablo "You don't think the way people identify with a place is more complicated than postcodes and as-the-crow-flies distance then?'"
People tend to identify with products (brand names) these days.
Quote: El Diablo "For example, I was born and raised in Horsforth.'"
Was the 'LS18 Rhino' moniker already taken?
That's interesting because most folk I've met from Horsforth always used to go out of their way to say they were from Horsforth rather than Leeds. This may have changed over the years as more and more areas became assimilated under the Leeds umbrella.
Quote: El Diablo "Now, I don't know how people in Miggy tend to view Hunslet, but I don't find it inconceivable that a similar effect is in operation. Would somebody who regards themselves as being from Leeds really want to pin their colours to the mast of a neighbouring borough they have no affilinity with just because it's a bit nearer? I don't think I would.'"
They support their nearest populist sooper league brand name. In a bygone era, they'd have more than likely supported their nearest community club which would be Hunslet.
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| Ref William Eves reference to mother bensons end.
I suspect that there won't be many people on this thread will have stood on mother bensons end,in fact most people will not have a clue what or were it
was.as a young lad in Hunslet I watched many a match from the mother bensons end.
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| Quote: William Eve " People tend to identify with products (brand names) these days. '"
Maybe you're right. Bit cynical for my cheery disposition and outlook though I'm afraid.
Quote: William Eve " Was the 'LS18 Rhino' moniker already taken?
No idea, didn't look. When I registered I could probably still just about be bothered being grumpy about the "Rhinos" name change.
Quote: William Eve " That's interesting because most folk I've met from Horsforth always used to go out of their way to say they were from Horsforth rather than Leeds. This may have changed over the years as more and more areas became assimilated under the Leeds umbrella. '"
I think there's a hierarchy. When asked by people in Leeds I'd say I was from Horsforth. To outsiders I'd say I was from Leeds. I certainly would never have gone out of my way to say I wasn't from leeds. I always grew up regarding Horsforth as part of Leeds, as did most of my peers as far as I can tell (I haven't really done the research, so I may be wrong). I'd always have regarded Bramley as the club of Bramley's community and certainly never felt any kind of affinity for Bramley. Nothing against them and I used to go occasionally when they were at McLaren Field, but I never felt like they were representing me or my community.
Quote: William Eve " They support their nearest populist sooper league brand name. In a bygone era, they'd have more than likely supported their nearest community club which would be Hunslet.'"
I can't help feeling that describing Super League franchises as "populist" is a little melodramatic. Your choice though. In any event Rugby League is no more able to fight the tides of change when it comes to homogenous communities and cities than anything else. It isn't a specifically Rugby League thing. You seem to be more pining for a different era in general than any particular trend focussed on the sport. The trouble with bygone eras is that they've, well, gone by. Living in the past is rarely a good idea in my opinion.
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| So what about British people who are big fans of the NRL even having a Aussie team they support and/or go watch games over there?
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| Quote: Backwoodsman "I suspect that there won't be many people on this thread will have stood on mother bensons end,in fact most people will not have a clue what or were it'"
Must admit I was thinking along the lines of housemaid's knee or tennis elbow. But much more painful.
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| Quote: William Eve "There are exceptions of course which override factors like domicile and place of birth. Anyone with Rhino in their username automatically fails the postcode test. Anyone with Loiner in their username automatically passes the postcode test.'"
What if I changed my user name to "Rhinos_Loiner_4_Eva"?
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| Quote: William Eve "You're free to support any club you like.
The postcode test merely serves to highlight those who choose to jump aboard a bandwagon by supporting another club entirely from outside their local area rather than support their own local club which is closest to them. I guess that would include you.
Feel free to cross the river as many times as you like.'"
The post code isn't all about bandwagon support etc. I personally was raised in pudsey and my nearest team was bramley. But my dad was from headingley area and in reality I didn't really have a choice, been taken to watch Leeds RL way before I had any choice.
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| They're are some really creepy people about on this forum, I mean come on, people are actually trying to justify themselves
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| I was born and bred and brought up in Bramley,broadlea's actually and it was fine in the 50s.The lads who introduced us little lads to Leeds RL all came from Leeds RL families who had moved into the area from Burley,and Kirkstall etc which were the old Leeds RL area's.Having said that as I got a bit older I developed a soft spot for Bramley
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