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Quote: HyperbolicRhino "Hood and Ward have both had game time this year, Hardaker has been pretty much an ever present. It is happening, and will continue to happen, but the club will do it patiently and carefully, just as they did back in the day with Sinfield, McGuire, Burrow and co. Over the course of the next year or two we will almost certainly start to see Chisholm, Keinhorst, Singleton etc, perhaps nowhere near as quickly as you would like, but I for one believe that the people running this club have more than earnt the right to do things their way.'"


They didn't though. They got dropped into the team due to an injury crisis and then Iestyn left for Union.

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Yes Nantwich shame on you for trying to talk about Rugby League on here of all places, luckily we had some of the message boards savants on hand to change the subject to toilet rolls. Next time you want to talk about RL go on a message board for cake lovers.

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Quote: tvoc " I seriously doubt whether Keinhorst is ready to be thrown into the most difficult defensive position in the sport in a game where the team is not fresh and not playing well.'"


Why is centre the most difficult position to defend in?
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Whilst by no means fact, the reasons I would give would be
lots of big blokes running at you as close enough to forwards
quick nippy halves running at you
lots more space out wide than in the middle
centres usually playing the full 80 so no rest

I've no idea what the original claimer thinks about it though

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Well Keinhorst plays centre for the Under 20's so he knows the position, granted its a step up playing against the 'big boys' but lets not make out as if the defensive side of the position is completely alien to him.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Well Keinhorst plays centre for the Under 20's so he knows the position, granted its a step up playing against the 'big boys' but lets not make out as if the defensive side of the position is completely alien to him.'"



Does he defend two in from that position for the under 20's? as with McDermotts tactics, he would be if in first team.

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Quote: Gotcha "Does he defend two in from that position for the under 20's? as with McDermotts tactics, he would be if in first team.'"


No but neither did Delaney when McClennen played him at RIGHT centre in 2010, so doing that on the left centre wouldn't be much fun for him either.

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Quote: Gotcha "Does he defend two in from that position for the under 20's? as with McDermotts tactics, he would be if in first team.'"


One would hope that the club has a set pattern of play for the U20's and the 1st team. It would make it then a smooth transition from U20's to senior squad as everyone would know what they are doing.

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Quote: DHM "One would hope that the club has a set pattern of play for the U20's and the 1st team. It would make it then a smooth transition from U20's to senior squad as everyone would know what they are doing.'"


The U20s outstanding results suggest this is unlikely.

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Quote: RoyFrancis "None of the above, just wait and see!
Soooo come on ..what do you know ? icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: nantwichexile "Another one determined to ignore the successful academy team. Not a lot of point having one really is there ?'"


Oh he's happy to have one, but farm them out o lower league teams, hoping they will get an Admin job (see Halifax), so they dont come back

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Quote: craigizzard "The U20s outstanding results suggest this is unlikely.'"


That made me laugh on the outside and cry on the inside.

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Quote: nantwichexile "Geez .. I was only trying to stimulate debate. I base my opinions on what I have seen and heard live and on TV/radio; no more. How "WORTHWHILE" that is I don't know, but nowhere have I ever professed to be the ultimate all knowing oracle ( unlike others ). There was no need for G1 to reply with a retort no doubt meant to provoke.... Can't see any other reason for the content. I chose to largely ignore it with a flippant riposte on his continued apostrophe faux pas.

Next thing I have a host of his apologists demanding I take heed of his absolutely sacrosant valid point that I am repeating myself.

I apologise for my crime ..... M c Dermott and the boys I adore you unquestioningly and I promise no more undue irreverence. You can all do no wrong. Bow bow scrape scrape..... I will attend every match too before I dare to pass adverse opinion again ...

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At no point did I suggest that you should forfeit your right to opinion. It just annoys me ever so slightly when you spout off about aspects of a match you have not witnessed, and usually one of the first to do so. I never said you had to attend every match, but watching, or listening to commentary would be a good start. Your aversion to the idea of attending games, should you be able, is your choice, albeit poorly reasoned.

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Nantwich, you're obviously entitled to your opinions, and entitled to post them. Equally, however, once you do it on a public forum, people are entitled to question how well informedthey are.

May I enquire as to how many times you've watched our successful academy team this year?

Incidentally, on the "what's the point in having the academy" question, I'd argue that providing players in the current season isn't really its core purpose at all. It is, surely, supposed to be providing FUTURE players, isn't it? I'm not saying that means academy players shouldn't play in the first team, just that if they don't that doesn't negate the whole purpose of its existence, as you appeared to suggest.

Further, at the risk of being labelled a G1 apologist, you ARE repeating yourself, and again, while you're entitled to do so, the rest of us are equally entitled to point out that we might find it boring to the point of being irritating enough that we respond to it. Which I suppose means you have succeeded in stimulating debate, it just might not be the debate you were aiming for.

Just saying.

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Quote: El Diablo "Nantwich, you're obviously entitled to your opinions, and entitled to post them. Equally, however, once you do it on a public forum, people are entitled to question how well informedthey are.

May I enquire as to how many times you've watched our successful academy team this year?

Incidentally, on the "what's the point in having the academy" question, I'd argue that providing players in the current season isn't really its core purpose at all. It is, surely, supposed to be providing FUTURE players, isn't it? I'm not saying that means academy players shouldn't play in the first team, just that if they don't that doesn't negate the whole purpose of its existence, as you appeared to suggest.

Further, at the risk of being labelled a G1 apologist, you ARE repeating yourself, and again, while you're entitled to do so, the rest of us are equally entitled to point out that we might find it boring to the point of being irritating enough that we respond to it. Which I suppose means you have succeeded in stimulating debate, it just might not be the debate you were aiming for.

Just saying.'"


I guess some opinions are more qualified than others but some take them more seriously than others. If my opinions annoy anybody "ever so slightly" then I am indeed flattered that my ( oft repeated ) opinions matter to that degree that they must be responded to.

Personally I would ignore them icon_smile.gif

Just saying.

I reserve the right to not have to further explain or justify myself .... Or is that verboten ?

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Quote: nantwichexile "I guess some opinions are more qualified than others but some take them more seriously than others. If my opinions annoy anybody "ever so slightly" then I am indeed flattered that my ( oft repeated ) opinions matter to that degree that they must be responded to.

Personally I would ignore them
I wouldn't be too flattered. I find lots of people annoying who have no particular bearing on my life. It isn't that they must be responded to , per se. It's more that responding to things is what internet forums are all about.

If I ignored every lunatic opinion on here I'd have to stop posting and find sopmething else to do with my time. And I'm feeling far too short on imagination for that.

You can reserve the right to do more or less whatever you want on a web forum, so you have no obligation to explain or justify yourself.

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