It'll be swan-diving heaven for players like McGuire

Ah!! The master plan. Let's go for GF from 8th place.

They shouldn't need critisim from this level to compete. Pride in themselves and their performance should be unquestionable.

Would love to see Jack Reed brought in from Brisbane.. Also I'd like Widdop to be signed, put him in at FB. Forwards wise we need to bring a couple in but god knows who..

I saw McDermott's comment that it's not down to gameplan or substitutions but is down to the players.
Funny, I was thinking the opposite.
Plus the fact that Wigan are bloody good at the moment.

Trust me.

Everyone's knees will calm down when Leeds put a string of easy wins together and climb the table to a position of semi-respectability and an assault on the play-offs.

And hopefully you will have nothing to spout on about 2416 posts and said nothing. Quite an achivement.

He's right though.

Leeds will string a few runs together and people on here will over react exactly as they do to defeats.

Like proclaiming we have the best young centre pairing around and Lunt is as good as Buderus etc etc.

The truth lies somehwere between the two exteremes. All is not well in the camp, but its not as bad, and does not needs as much major surgery as some on here would think. Some freshening up here and there, on and off the pitch as we will regain WCC form and be a match for anyone

When did semi-final tickets go on sale again?

Apologies for not posting the link - have been too lazy to work out how over the past 5 years or so....

Anyway, having thought a bit more, I think this is a good bit of psychology from GH. He's probably repeating what senior players have told him - there's no problem with BM, we're all best buddies etc. If that's what they have told him and he's seen for himself in training, then the only explanation is that the players themselves aren't good enough any more. The players can't have it both ways, and I think that's what GH is pointing out.

I expect that he believes the real issue IS complacency. Less than a year ago the team were good enough when it really counted, and whilst a couple may have slipped past the point of no return, there's no way that's true for the whole team. Either way we'll find out and he'll react by shaking up the squad if they simply sren't good enough.

As for BM, I think this helps him a lot. If complacency is the issue, then GH is telling the squad to pull their collective finger out. If not, the coach can expect to be backed in shaking things up.