What did Hanley win after he had joined Leeds?

Did he become a loser by signing for Leeds?

The respect and admiration of everyone around him, unlike Schofield.

Nope, can't undo what had been done. He had won. He was a winner. Unlike Schoey.

Hanley also broke the world record tries by a forward whilst at Leeds, and even though on the decline I doubt anyone who watched him play for Leeds ever thought that he didn't give 100% or look a world class player. Schofield during that same period went from being easily GB's best stand off to being moved to scrum half to accommodate the awesome Graham Holroyd.

A real shame IMO. Shoey was a genuinely gifted player, but his career tailed off badly at the end - to the extent that when he left I don't remember there being huge gnashing of teeth about it. He should be far more revered as a club legend than he is. That's what I have against him - I couldn't care less what he's like off the field.

I've only just read his comments .... Putting aside who it is making the comments, I believe he is fundamentally correct. It doesn't explain, however, how he can exonerate Mcdermott when he is responsible for the positional choices ??

I can't be bothered reading his comments. THey may be right, but only on the premise that if you keep saying the same thing over and over again in sport, statistically it is likely that it will at some stage become true. The fact that he's said it all before and been proved embarrassingly wrong gives me cause not to listen to his views on RL anymore.

I very much enjoyed watching him as a player, he had tons of ability but perhaps lacked the mental edge to lead a side to great things, despite achieving great things as an individual. There are players of less natural ability in the current Leeds squad who have managed to deliver far more in a Leeds shirt than he did. Sad for him, but true.

Oh, and the above-mentioned tailing off in his career was characterised by an inverse relationship between match-effectiveness and mass....

In Schofield's era, you had to be number 1 to call yourself Champions, not like today where finishing 5th can still get your hands on the same trophy.

And what would Schofield know about that?

That "era" btw, was the briefest of eras in Rugby league's rich history.

He did have the option of winning a Premiership title, there was also the League Challenge Cup, Regal Trophy (in various formats) and Yorkshire Cup on offer.

The Peak of his domestic career. That said, it was Cliffy who took the White Rose trophy home that day.

But it isn't the same trophy numbnut! This one is ugly and angular but it sits proudly in the Rhinos trophy cabinet - which was rarely true with the former mothballed trophy.

Nevertheless, Sinfield, McGuire and his other non-favourites have accomplished that twice. Which is twice more than Schofield did.

Just saying.

Not the same trophy either. Current one was commissioned for 1996 Super League season wasn't it?

Just saying.

These things are possible sometimes in a team sport.

The likes of Ian Kirke and Carl Alett can be and presently are both four time Championship winning players without ever reaching full International status.

While a great individual player such as Garry Schofield never won a Championship despite in his day becoming the joint International cap record holder, officially recognised by the honour system for his contribution to the sport, a series winning captain of his country, a Man of Steel and Golden Boot winner.

Had Schofield signed for Wigan instead of Leeds he'd arguably have had a hat full of trophies to go alongside his individual awards.